Putin critic, Russian activist Alexei Navalny on a ventilator; poison in tea suspected

Any backup to support the claim?

Russia is, like other posters pointed out, a frozen Nigeria.

I ll chose medicine for my example. Why exactly medicine? Because medicine shows well the level of development of the country as a whole.

The average salary for a doctor in Nigeria is approximately Nigerian Naira 230,000. This is 42 thousand rubles. at the rate for May 2020 Average salary of a doctor in Russia in 1 sq. 2020 according to official data of Rosstat - 82 thousand rubles. It is clear that a doctor from Moscow (145 thousand rubles on average) is unlikely to travel to Africa. But Ivanovo (49 thousand), Bryansk, Tambov, Kostroma (53 thousand each), the Caucasus (43-48 thousand) work for money that is quite comparable to Nigeria.


Alexei Karchinsky, a young orthopedic surgeon from Togliatti (City Clinical Hospital No. 5, Togliatti) published his payroll for February 2019 on the Internet. He clarified that he works on a five-day schedule, from 8 to 16, and also has 5-6 shifts in a month. On hands - 16 847 rubles, 70 kopecks


Yaroslavl , City Clinical Hospital No. 2, endoscopy department. Doctor Olga Trofimova, salary for April 2019 - 27,631 rubles.




Irina Medvedeva, a nurse, also works full-time - 15,239 rubles. 86 kopecks.

Just for reference: In the United States, a Family practitioner (family therapist, district, lowest paid category) earns an average of $ 189,000 a year. That's $ 15,700 a month. Or one million one hundred thousand rubles. By American standards, any of these people work for free.


"As life shows, the US has really achieved a lot in this area [medicine], but their health care is worse [than in Russia]." Viacheslav Volodin, Chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, May 8, 2020
The chairman of Duma has the audacity to say such a thing and Russians clap their hands and rejoice.

 

Yes just go back to earlier in the thread, I posted a podcast and the time where the financials are laid out

 

It's good that everything is not so in the USA and you do not have any rich influential families.

 

Yeah google Clinton body count. A lot of suspicious deaths there.

 

Sorry, I missed it.
The analysis is a bit misleading, Russia may have growth, but the small percentage of growth is insignificant because the total economy is small.
Russia is a still in development, not by any means an advanced society or economy.
1% increase its nothing when your economy is small.
A couple % increase of US economy is already more then the entire economy of Russia.
Russia, with all that it posseses, has development per capita similar to România, a country 100 times smaller, 70 times less populated, defeated in all wars and so on. You cannot make this stuff up.

With all the potential available and the level of societal development, Russia can be considered a failure for humanity.

 

I don't understand something. In the United States, GDP is higher, education is better, and so on. Why don't you take economics courses then? What you write is a complete zero reasoning in economics. GDP is not the length of the male genital organ, direct comparison of GDP does not work.
You wrote.
"Russia, with all that it posseses, has development per capita similar to România, a country 100 times smaller, 70 times less populated, defeated in all wars and so on."
development per capita similar to România-and after that "70 times less populated".Do you understand that you contradict yourself? You say that there is good medicine in the USA, do an examination in the clinic, maybe not everything is good with your brain.
a country 100 times smaller-A big house is more expensive to maintain. Doesn't that seem logical to you?

 

Many of the so-called "white Russians" who left Russia took with them the entrepreneurship,
capital and the intellect.Communism made many of those remaining more lazy.
The real problem is that Russia is a nuclear power, and being weak militarily she is more
likely to go nuclear in any future major war.

 

I got as far as this. I don't take on conspiracy theorists.

The Clinton Body Count refers to a conspiracy theory, parts of which have been advanced by Newsmax
publisher Christopher Ruddy among others, that asserts that former U.S. President Bill Clinton and his wife
Hillary Clinton have assassinated fifty or more of their associates.[1][2][3] Such accusations have been around
at least since the 1990s, when a pseudo-documentary film called The Clinton Chronicles, produced by Larry
Nichols and promoted by Rev. Jerry Falwell, accused Bill Clinton of multiple crimes including murder.[4][5] This
conspiracy theory has been debunked by the Lakeland Ledger, the Chicago Tribune, Snopes and others, who
point to detailed death records, the unusually large circle of associates that a president is likely to have, and
the facts that many of the people listed had no known link to the Clintons, had been misidentified, or were still
alive.[6][7]

 

Yes the question posed was "Are there any country that can withstand the economic shock of Covid 19. According to Alden going through the metrics, Russia appears to be the only country that are capable of doing so.

Now my opinion - this takes very tricky navigating and you can only achieve it via good management of the country.

The other issue (also purely opinion therefore subjective) is that Russia have been fighting the globalists successfully longer than anyone (since the break-up of the Soviet Union or the Globalist funding of the Chechen war). everyone else have left themselves vulnerable to the corruption (not that Russia do not have corruption - but referring the levels of Ukraine & South Africa even Eastern Europe and the whole of Africa in particular you could add China to this list of corruption... South America... there are many more) also the money printing and vast debts that everyone else was deliberately pushed towards by the globalists have been largely avoided by Russia.

ps. I'll add that from the media reports coming out of Germany it appears the whole debacle is about Nordstream 2

 

Yeah, and like Assad in Syria with the false flag chemical attacks, Putin always does it blatantly to arouse the West and suffer the consequences. Anyone ever heard of Cui Bono? But then again how can logic prevail, when the ones who own the media own people's minds. I came cross this while browsing. Read the last part:




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From what I know, the amount of people that died and who were connected with Clinton in an adverse way, went against all mathematical probabilities - especially the ones before the last election. So shouldn't the Clinton' murders be considered less a conspiracy theory and be investigated more thoroughly than Washington's investigation of the 'nothing burger' conspiracy theory which we all know as Russiagate?

Let's not also forget the conspiracy theories about the crimes that were 'supposedly' committed by Vladimir Putin, starting with the plane shoot down in Ukraine and Obama's no proof response. All we got from him was 'trust me'?

 

Looks like Washington is all out to stop Nordstream II. Someone threw a bottle with a yellow substance into Navalny's office according to Greek Pronews.

With these false flag attacks, and the American jets now mimicking missile attacks, it looks like WWIII is getting closer. But is it Trump? Yesterday he blamed the Pentagon's support of the military industrial complex for our wars.

 

Radar locks, penetrating Western airspace and even flying through carrier formations is
a Russian tactic. I don't think the Scandinavian or Baltic nations want to provoke Russia
but Russia certainly provokes them.
Guess, Russia, like China, wants their empires back.

 

This is what I think. Russia wants the lands that were always a part of Russia and were stolen from them when the USSR fell apart. Twenty million Russians ended up living outside of Russia and that's why he considers it the greatest calamity of the last century. But not because Russia wants more land, but because the Russians living in countries like Estonia do not want to leave their ancestral homes and are being held in an apartheid system. Putin even offered any Russian or Slav who wants to live in Russia free lands in the East, but they won't leave no matter how much hardship is imposed on them.

This is why the Baltics are so panicky. As for Poland, they have dreams of restoring their former Lithuanian/Polish Empire. Look, let me be blunt. what I think Vladimir Putin really wants is to have all the Russian people who are under the Russian Orthodox Church, to be united with Russia in some kind of loose confederation the way they were before the Mongol invasions.

Other than that, I believe he wants to raise the standard of living of the Russian people, but it's difficult because Russia is threatened on all side and he has to keep up Russia's defenses.

 

Is Russia provoking them, or are they being paranoid? I don't see Russian bases surrounding any country, but Nato certainly is.

 

Go back to Gorbachev and Yeltsin times - there was the chance that Russia might have joined
the civilized world. But these two leaders were out of step with the Russian mind.
The threats Russia makes to its neighbors are real. Too many of them are made to many countries.
I think the Baltics and Ukraine should go nuclear. That might temper Russian bullying.

 

Um... no. You didn't factor in the CORRUPTION and seizure of Russian enterprises by Putin
and his cronies. This is the old Communist thinking - any power outside of The Party and its
Supreme Leader must be curtailed, even at the expense of standards of living. Indeed, the
higher the standard of living the more citizens want democratic reforms. So poor and ignorant
is the way to go. Nukes can do the rest.

 

The Baltics aren't panicky, at least that was my impression when I was there. Of course they freely speak Russian as it is widely used....as a lot of them are Russians. I think the Baltic politicians use the perceived (fake) threat so they can stick their dirty corrupt hands out to collect U.S. taxpayer's money. It certainly is the case in Ukraine....a corrupt cesspool worthy of shithole status.

Putin will not, will never, will ever invade another country or even disputed territory unless that territory's people have declared independence by majority vote and they ask for Russia's protection....as what happened in Crimea. Russia could have easily waltzed into the Donbass region of so-called Ukraine and took it over in a matter of hours. But Putin didn't and he won't. He does give aid....especially in the area of electricity/gas/petrol because the Nazis in Kyiv tried to end the conflict by shutting off all essentials to the Donbass region. Keep in mind 1/2 of a billion in U.S. tax dollars were supposed to be used in the Donbass region for infrastructure/repair/electric grid.....but Kyiv doesn't even control it so your tax dollars wound up in some corrupt *******'s hands, not where it was supposed to go. Probably Hunter and Joe Biden got a nice kickback too.

 

So all we need is for a few "Russians" in each of these countries to cry foul and Russia can invade.
The issue with the Crimea is that according to international norms nations don't change the borders.
Most of the world's borders were established in blood and conflict. If it's okay for Russia to change
borders for "good reasons" then can Japan take back the islands Stalin took? Can China "take back"
Taiwan? Can China claim the South China Sea ( --- oh wait, they already have - there's a blow to the
corrupt regimes in Brunei, Vietnam, Phillipines and Malaysia.)

 

What's freaks Russia's enemies is, that with all the thievery and the tens of billions during the 90's that the criminals threw into off shore accounts so they could starve the Russian people, and with the economic warfare against Putin when he tossed out the criminals - not to mention the attacks on Russia's economy in the past 6 years, Russia not only survived, but has managed to have the second most powerful army in the world.

Since you consider Russia as a failure for not having lived up to your standards of humanity and societal development, then what can I or anybody else say?

HUBRIS​

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Take that you fools of misery.
For we the gods of lofty see,
are watching you from our great height
and snicker at the motley sight
of lesser beings, not as great as us - Jeannette​

 

Listen, I'm certain you've never set foot in Ukraine or Russia or anywhere close, so all you're doing is parroting the fake news media propaganda spewed for political purposes.

You have no idea that the entire eastern half of 'Ukraine' was part of the Russian Empire (ummmm not the same as the USSR fyi) for hundreds of years and you damn sure don't know that Crimea was part of Russia from the 1700's until it was illegally gifted by executive order to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in 1954. 1954! In 1991, Ukraine declared independence AND SO DID CRIMEA. What did Ukraine do? They invaded Crimea just a year or two later (you can verify the exact dates) after they said Crimea should be independent. 5 years ago, they got a second crack at it and smartly asked to join Russia.

One word....KOSOVO. So Kosovo can declare independence but Crimea can't? Oh **** that ****. I'm not a damn hypocrite....yet because the U.S. has a base in Kosovo...it's A-Okay!!. Yeah right. SMFH.

I've been all over that area of the world...been to Ukraine many times as well as Belarus and Russia. There's a lot of interesting things in Russia. The people are really no different than here in the U.S., except they tend to be not in the liberal tattoo-fest blue haired crowd. They despise the thought of communism so they really aren't like democrats at all.

Why did I go to that part of the world? TO SEE FOR MYSELF BECAUSE THE MEDIA IS FAKE ****ING NEWS THAT JUST WANTS TO PERPETUATE CONFLICT FOR RATINGS.

 

Russia will invade only when they start killing Russian citizens. To prevent ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Russians in Eastern and Southern Ukraine, Russia has given them Russian citizenship.

Germany helped break up Yugoslavia and helped change its borders by recognizing Croatia when it declared its independence. Later Clinton illegally supported the KLA terrorists and bombed Belgrade on false premises for 78 days to break up Serbia.

When Ukraine sent troops in 1995 and invaded and occupied Crimea - which at the time was an independent country, Washington and the EU said nothing even though Ukraine changed its borders.

Later in 2014 when the junta in Ukraine began threatening the Russians, the Crimean people declared their independence from Ukraine. They asked the Russians stationed there for protection until they could legalize their independence again by holding a referendum. The reason they voted to join Russia was so Ukraine couldn't invade them again.

Unlike Washington's invasions and occupations, there was nothing illegal about Crimea, because when Kosovo went to the Hague, the court ruled that people have a right to their self determination. You can't make it right for Kosovo to declare independence, and then say it's not right for Crimea.

When Washington tried to break up Syria the way they did Yugoslavia by indirectly supporting the terrorists, Russia went to help Assad so he could keep Syria intact. Washington still won't get out of Syria. They still want to break it up and keep the oil.

 

I didn't know we gave aid. What I do know is that whenever Biden paid Kiev a visit, the war would start again, and whatever money he brought, was to be used for arms. Nothing for the Ukrainian people.

When Ukraine sued for peace after their army was trapped in Cauldrons, Russia would force the militia's to go to Minsk by closing their border. Both times they begged Russia to make them a part of Russia and Putin refused. He said how could he do it when he wouldn't know where to put the border. When they had taken a poll, the further west they went, the less they wanted to join Russia.

The Western part of Ukraine wants the people in Donetsk and Lugansk to leave, that's why they keep attacking the civilian areas. They know that as long as the Russians dominate in the East and South, they would never be able to win in a fair election.

 

So, let's get started. There's even Russians here in Australia that think Putin is okay (okay that is if you support
"strong men" as dictators, that is.) We just have to stir up some anti-Russian sentiment, get a few Russians
killed --- and then Russian can invade 'legally.' We can do this in the Baltics for starters.
Can't figure out why America or Israel don't try this trick.
Not sure about America "breaking up" Syria though. Didn't America "invade" Iraq to get the oil? What happened
there? How come the Iraqis gave their oil contracts to the Chinese and French - will America invade China and
France now to get that oil?

 

Yes, the media is "fake." It's been fake since Russia began using the Internet to create fake news.
But then, Russia has had a long history of faking stuff on a cultural and institutional level, going back
before the days of the Potemkin villages. Some friends of mine toured the Soviet Union in the 1970's.
Their tour guide told inquisitive people that the Australian tourists were wealthy and this explained their
cameras, watches and fancy clothes. My friends were working class people.
The thing is - you can have 'fake news' but it aint all fake. In a Western country you have a wide variety
of sources. Not so in Russia or China.