Most Americans Think Government Does Not Work 4 Them

Capitalism's time is about up. Propaganda has its limits. People see the reality in their daily lives.



62% Americans say government doesn't work for them. 50% disagree with the statement, "everyone has an equal opportunity." 50% of Americans are also poor or low-income.

This is why:

• Joe Biden authored the Patriot Act;

The Many Occasions Joe Biden Took Credit For Writing The Patriot Act

• then-president Obama abolished Habeas Corpus;

President Obama Signs Indefinite Detention Bill Into Law

• we live in a surveillance state

U.S. court: Mass surveillance program exposed by Snowden was illegal

40 years ago, Senator Frank Church warned of the dangers of allowing the NSA to turn inward:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/25/frank-church-liberal-icon

 

I don't know why people think that the government works for them.

It doesn't, that was never intended by the founders.

It is to be based on the people but the only part of it that actually works for the people is the house of representatives, everyone else has their own specific job duties. The president doesn't work for anyone, his job is to organize the federal government. The Senate works for the state's interests which can sometimes conflict with the people's and the judicial branch effectively works for the laws passed by congress with the exception of judicial review which is another matter altogether.

So when you read, "a government by the people, for the people" it isn't referring to the fact that they work for us but that we have control over who gets the job. If we don't like them then we can have them removed.

What this means in broad terms is that we hire people to do jobs that we do not either want to do ourselves or can't do ourselves and we pay them to do that job. If we don't like the job they do then we can fire them. But they are there to perform a job and we are not directly their boss. So if you hire a guy to dig a hole then you let him dig his hole, if you don't like the hole then you will hire someone else to dig the next one but the man is not working for us, he is being paid to dig a hole and that's it. Once we hire him that's it....we can't tell him to do any other work and we can't tell him how to dig it, at what speed to dig it, where to place the dirt from the hole....only evaluate the hole when he is done and see if it is acceptable.

We don't hire people in government for specific items for the most part, they are there to perform a job and all the duties of that job. In fact, everyone in the federal government ultimately is hired by the president, not the people although technically you could say that since we hire the president we do but you can see how far we the people are actually removed from the process. This is how our system was designed actually.

The people will always have the ultimate say but we really can't micromanage anything. This prevents things like a national sentiment on an issue affecting government overnight, something the founders were very cautious about. They wanted everything in their design to be a long and difficult process to change, everything from how government functions to how we change the constitution. We can change things but it is never quick or simple.

 

Karl Marx does not work!

 

What's the point of voting if the people you elect aren't representing your interests? You want to be ruled by unaccountable private power?

 

That's funny because that's not how it works.

While the people we elect do not specifically represent our interests they do realize that if they do not then we will put someone else in their position who will. This was the brilliant design the founders came up with as it makes the officials accountable to us without giving us direct control over them.

 

I don't want to be ruled by anybody. I don't vote because voting doesn't fix anything. See the graphic above. I don't want the same thing from government that other people do. That is obvious by how they vote.

 

The point of voting is sleight-of-hand and deception. The masses must believe that voting actually controls the government, and they do.

 

How the founders intended it.

 

When it comes to people's opinion of the Government most people today don't seem to have the basic knowledge of Government that used to be required to graduate from high school. But times have changed (to a large degree because of Obama) and people have gotten weaker or more helpless depending on how one looks at thinks.

Abe Lincoln - government should do for people only what they cannot do better by themselves

Barry Obama - U.S. Constitution has become a hindrance to progress in America. “The document is so out-dated, that it is now becoming a hindrance to governing the country.”

 

As opposed to the modern liberal that wants people who pay zero taxes and comes here illegally to tell the people who do pay taxes and who were born here how the country should be run.

Actually this is nothing new for the Democrats. Anyone who knows US history knows they tried the same thing in the 1850s resulting in the formation of the American Party in 1854. Most of the support for the American Party shifted to the Republican Party after 1860 to support the Republicans opposition to slavery.

 

All I need is police, fire, roads, military, and someone to keep foreign countries out of our way. I pay for a lot more than that.

Id like to build completely off grid soon. I can build all utilities for $35k or less.

 

You're attacking people with no money and no power.

You paid taxes. These corporations didn't - Center for Public Integrity

These 91 companies paid no federal taxes in 2018 - CNBC.com

America's richest 400 families now pay a lower tax rate than the middle class- CBS News

Blame the Mexicans, not the corporations that exploit them.

 

Everyone needs skin in the game.

Why do you think so many Billionaires support Biden? Because they want to pay their fair share?

 

We workers shall rise like lions and crush these running dogs! We have nothing to lose but our chains!!!!!

 

Maybe, just maybe, instead of simply observing that the system is not functioning right, we could examine the forces exerted on the system that caused it to start functioning much more poorly.

If I can use an analogy, it's like having a car you've had for many years. It doesn't really run perfectly, but it works. Then you lend your car to a friend for a few weeks while you're out of the country, and when you come back, the car is working terribly, and it's so bad it's intolerable.
Do you say "This car is not working, I need a new car?"
Or do you ask "What was it my friend did to the car that caused it to be so bad?"

The first area to look might be in Trade & Immigration practices.

Maybe do a little comparison between now and the early 60s. What is different?

 

This was my big problem with Brave New World, which really sort of embodied the advice above. If the slaves really did love their servitude then they had to be happy and if people were happy then what the bloody **** was the problem?

 

So wait, do you think TRUMP wants them to pay?

 

I have to disagree. There are many mechanisms built into the Constitution that not only allow us to influence government but even require it. We do not elect dictators to the Executive Branch and the Legislature is constantly aware that they do not function in a vacuum.

You seem to think that all of Congress functions mainly like the Senate. They do not. The busiest branch of the Legislature is the House and the main thing they do once they are in office is start campaigning for the next election. This is pretty obviously the way the Chamber was designed

 

Careful Comrade. The submarine with the caviar is not due back for a month

Seriously, you are being facetious, right?

 

Most women didn't think they were oppressed 100 years ago.

 

But were they happy? There is a difference between being resigned to the misery you cannot change and being actually happy. Women 100 years ago lived lives of unremitting hard toil and rarely enjoyed comfort of any kind. The population in Brave New World lived very vapid existences but they were also free from want and any real discomfort

 

Yeah, right.

 

If you went back in time and asked a random woman of she felt oppressed they'd look at you funny.