Investigations find Antifa and Proud Boys HAVE NOT been starting fires

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  1. Idahojunebug77

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    Obviously there is no evidence, the cause for most of the fires is still under investigation, the FBI wouldn't know anything for sure yet.

    I havent read the links yet but your claim seems to be bogus. But maybe with good reason, if it is determined laft wing extremists did set any of the wild fires in Oregon, Idaho, or Washington, portland would become a bloodbath. No one cares when they burn their own cities, but when you burn those of the political opposition people tend to seek vengeance.
     
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    Antifa/BLM save their molotov cocktails for city centers.

    In true commie bolshevik fashion, those Antifas love them some molotov cocktails......named after Vyacheslav Molotov.....one of Joseph Stalin's proteges. Seems fitting for the way they act and their demands for free ****.
     
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    No matter. Environmentalists and other Democrats fought forest management discipline that would keep fires from spreading out of control when they occur. Then, the geniuses drove the California grid to rolling blackouts preventing pumps from operating. Then, of course, many of the choppers used to fight fires are in Afghanistan fighting Obama's good war. In summary, Democrats have mismanaged their states and want to blame everyone else for their bungling ways.
     
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    You should have said *wildfires* because ANTIFA/BLM have absolutely been starting thousands of fires in streets, dumpsters, buildings, and what not, but perhaps not ones out in the woods (yet).
     
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    Um so all those assaults on white folks were actually Proud Boys in blackface? This is some of the most convincing blackface I have ever seen, it certainly fooled me.
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    Which is why is was so inexplicable to see the MSM and the Democrats egging it on for 3 months. They were primarily looting and burning fellow Democrats. I think there were a few million red pills dispensed along with the billion+ dollars of damages.
     
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    I suspect desperate small business owners with paid up insurance
     
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    Really? How can ANYONE be certain of that?
     
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    How do you argue with a MOD?
     
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    One can walk down to Portland in the evening and early morning and watch it happen. I believe first hand eyewitness sources are the highest order of historical evidence.
     
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    Just argue with a mod. If we are posting in a thread, we have absolutely no power to do any moderator actions other than making a report, so argue away.
     
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    FACT: We have 26 on-going fire complexes in Oregon alone.
    FACT: At least 20 of them started on September 8-9.
    FACT: Almost all of them started close to a road.
    FACT: Almost all of them are still under investigation as to how they started.
    FACT: At least 4 of them have already been determined to be man caused (though have not all have been declared intentional arson).
    FACT: Though we did have high winds from the east on the night of the 8th, it was not a unprecedented event that our State Government is trying to paint.

    I will not say conclusively that these fires are the result of arson or are a planned campaign by one group or another. However, you reap what you sow. When groups like Antifa, BLM, and even Proud Boys not only utilize violence and destruction as the voice for their cause but also make threats of doing just what is happening, it is not unexpected that people will point fingers at them. And the claim that this is a result of climate change is a joke. This is a result of poor forest management, and the moratorium on broadcast burning in areas that have been logged. I have worked in the forest almost all my life and I have never seen so much down woody material on the forest floor that exists today.
     
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    CORRECTIONS:
    -26 on-going fire complexes in Oregon & Washington combined.
    -Started on the 7-8, not 8-9
    -High east winds were the night of the 7th.
     
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    It's worked beautifully for the Tangerine Turd and his ilk...
     
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    At least it is a step up from Nadler who asserted it wasn't even happening.
     
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    In our profession we are in the woods on a very regular basis. With the basis of several decades of observations, it is pretty easy to see that feel-good pretend environmentalism enacted by judges has created potentially catastrophic conditions which could easily be averted by simple time tested science based forestry management practices. Having judges make forest policy is, and will continue to be, a disaster.
     
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    Also odd that when looking at a map of the fires, they strangely stop right at the Canadian border. I guess there's no 'climate change' up there
     
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    Or maybe Canadians aren't into fear porn like we are. We need maps and videos to scare the populous in order to prove the need for an all-powerful central government.
     
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    Looking at the map it seems that the fires are where expected, twice as many as normal for both Washington and Oregon, could produce a reasonable suspicion that the DEMOCRATIC/BLM PARTY TERRORISTS (known for being incendiaries in cities all over the place) are responsible, but it’s just climate change. Your average Democrat/BLM terrorist is too much of a blithering idiot to know “all” includes them, so it is highly unlikely they could look at a map before going to where the climate is most likely to produce a wildfire naturally. If it was DEMOCRATIC/BLM PARTY TERRORISTS, who are known incendiaries in cities across America, and proven retards that can't define "all," there should be more fires attempted in less likely locations along the coast of Oregon...

    https://www.insider.com/west-coast-wildfires-map-of-biggest-fires-color-coded-2020-9

    August:
    “The arid lands in the central and eastern parts experience vast temperature differences of 35°F (1.7°C) to 40°F (4.4°C) between day and night.”
    “Watch out for wildfires in the dry forest areas during August in Oregon.”
    https://www.weather-us.com/en/oregon-usa-climate

    Pretty country, so sad.
     
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    Do you have any evidence to support this suspicion? Anything whatsoever? A link? A reference to a news article? First hand accounts? Anything at all?

    I have personally witnessed Antifa thugs screaming "Burn it down!". I have links to credible news agancies supporting this:

    https://ktvz.com/news/crime-courts/...-light-fire-near-police-precinct-15-arrested/

    What would it take to convince you that isn't already readily available?
     
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    Is this the same team who ran the Obamagate investigation.... because that would explain why they think all these fires just spontaneously ignite wherever there is a BLM riot
     
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    We have people that want to introduce wolves Colorado, because it worked so good in Montana. Us folks here in the mountains don't think that it's such a good idea. The people in the city think that it's a genius idea.
     
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    Please explain?
     
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    When the space aliens arrive they will eat they Canadians first.
     
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    Blame the Sierra Club for that.
     
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