Our Country is Burning - So What Goes?

I don't know about helicopters, but I do know that Russia has special planes, and they have been used in Israel and Greece during major break outs. That's the reason I said they could be loaned out to the US. It's just an opinion and it should be taken as that.

 

Smart!

 

Trees draw in humidity, but they're burning so it's going to get worse.

 

Dutchsinse's observations and conclusions are always new, but what he says should really be checked into because he is very observant - that is unless they already have, and it's not being mentioned to the public for obvious reasons.

But don't you think that all that dry lightning setting so many fires would have been noticed - and especially by Dutchsinse? He's always looking at satellite photos and zooming in? Of course there's always arson. Anyway what Dutchsinse looks at is the area, and whether it's around a volcanic field.​

That I know! I saw lightning hit a mountain during a rain storm and watched the fire grow. It was the Riviera, so the mountain must have been dry.. It would never happen in our East Coast, where it's literally a rain forest in July and August.

 

The deserts are on the east side of the Cascade and Sierra Nevada mountains that run from Canada to southern CA.

The significant fires are mostly on the west side.

And, the weather on the west side from southern CA to WA has been unusually hot and dry with essentially no percipitation.

 

Exactly, so which specific level of CO2 brings cool and wet weather to the west side of southern California.

Does this specific level take precipitation away from elsewhere? I wouldn't like to see others suffer. Ir maybe it just forms right at a specific long/late. I'm not familiar with how we move specific weather to southern cal. I didn't realize we were there yet with technology.

 

It’s something Trump heard somewhere. He just repeats it, as his usual way of avoiding appearing even slightly competent or responsible.

 

The fact that we are changing the climate does NOT suggest that we have any technology to repair the damage we're causing here in the US and around the world.

That's one of the reall issues.

We have no control of the ramifications of the change that we are causing.

It is LONG since time that we stop making matters worse.

If at some point we can figure out how to help recover from the damage we're doing here at home and around he world, then that would be a great discussion.

 

I don't think you understand the purpose of a backfire.

 

I know what you mean! I lived in southern CA for a couple of years (before you were born) and I too loved it. Now you couldn't pay me enough to even visit.

 

So So. Cal is still screwed then? Perhaps they need to discuss that.

 

It is hard to understand how severe the drought in the West is. But here a example.
I took a Ponderosa down yesterday, green tree, had been hit by beetle, not a kill, but a hit. I used the moisture tester, 12%.
12% is firewood, stored in a dry place.
If there is a fire those tree will just burn like firewood. Naturally the same for any underbrush.
Include 10s of thousand standing beetle kills, bone dry, useless wood, which nobody wants.
Sagebrush, dry as it can be, but full of pitch, burns like diesel, in between dry cheat-grass, burns explosive, like black powder.
Anything can set that powder of. You can not do any controlled burns if the humidity is below 30%. We average in the summer 15%, as low as 9%. We have been since end of March below 20%.
This has nothing to do with forest management, its the drought. We just do not get enough rain and snow.
The longer this drought lasts, the more severe those fires will become and they are next to unstoppable.
A 20mph wind can create a flame which reaches 300 feet, 40 mph...........
Think about it.
They had 100 mph winds in some areas, that is hell.
I know the fires, my house/farm has been drop point for slurries twice. The last big one got to 2 miles to the farm, had a stage 2 team on the farm. That was a 100,000 acres fire out of control, 40 to 50 mph winds.

 

I think they ARE.

Listen to their gov.

 

So the Gov knows how get it to rain in the specific areas of the state that need rain? I haven't heard the specifics of his plans and I suspect that it might have some flaws.

Feel free to post it up and we can dissect the plan.

 

OOPS - sorry I didn't make that clear:

I proposed that you listen to the CA gov.

I did not propose making silly suggestions about what he might say or do.

 

I did listen, he tosses out climate change, and leaves it hanging out there. Vehicle emissions aren't going to redirect rainstorms.

 

The issue is climate change.

He did NOT say it's aboutredirecting rainstorms.

 

While Spim was a bit facetious, there is a fundamental problem with making climate change the priority in dealing with this issue. The problem is that it would take many years to just stop the changes let alone to reverse the effects of climate change. We need to focus on how to deal with the problem today, to clean up the forests, and have barriers in place to limit the expansion of those fires.

 

Then California burns anyway unless you move the clouds

 

Yes. Also, China, India, and a multitude of other developing nations need to be on board.

They arent.

 

Simply said you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

I liked your highway system idea.

But I suspect those environmentally minded will fight that long and hard, interrupting animal habitats, whatever else they can think of.

 

Think I found the "climate change" https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/o...sed-of-setting-six-more-after-he-was-released

 

Hopefully you will get over it. Most of these fires are caused by arsonists or other people. Not much you can do about it.

 

The technology exists and is being used. It’s growth is assured. Wall Street has already bet on it.