Coronavirus and conspiracies: how the far right is exploiting the pandemic

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  1. Bowerbird

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    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-17/coronavirus-far-right-conspiracies-political-power/12670278

    This is quite a long article and to maintain the post to just the highlights as well as keeping within copyright I have “snipped” some portions. The link to the entire article is included for those who wish to read the entire piece

    This is concerning that firstly there is a measurable increase in “far right” activity” secondly that this increase is has concerned international bodies to the point of highlighting the danger this poses and thirdly that the target(s) May become healthcare workers and hospitals
     
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    Never maskers are as bad as the never Trumpers. They're lacking the requisite number of brain cells to be classified as normal.

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    So so so true!
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    When the debate has been lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. Thank you for demonstrating ancient knowledge and wisdom.
     
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    And thank you for a null contribution
     
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    thanks for this opinion piece. Please note the use of the term "far right" and "discredited"

    if you repeat something enough, it does not become fact, but you can get people to believe it.

    When one looks locally, and reviews the status of their local hospitals, and death rate, it calls into question the masking up, locking down, and killing of the economy.

    If on the other hand one likes to fall lock step in line with leftist politicians ( a term never used by ABC by the way) , then they will agree with this article as it reinforces your beliefs and political agenda, albeit factually incorrect

    Please find me one article from ABC where they use the term "leftist" or "far left"
     
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    This from an idaho anti mask pastor.
    That should read "Adults and we shouldn't need the government to tell us what to do"
    He's still in intensive care.
     
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    when one looks at science and logic, it becomes clear that your parrotry is nonsense

    "The most effective protections include washing your hands frequently with soap and water and practicing social and physical distancing. However, wearing cloth face MASKS or coverings in public when social distancing can’t be observed DOES OFFER PROTECTION against spread of COVID-19.

    Lisa Maragakis, M.D., M.P.H., an expert in infection prevention, provides guidance based on Johns Hopkins Medicine policy."

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea.../coronavirus-face-masks-what-you-need-to-know
     
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    I suggest that you look locally. One size never fits all unless of course you subscribe to a large, statist govt
     
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    I'm just observing human behavior. :angel:
     
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    i suggest you look at facts and stop parroting trump's nonsense

    you can ignore the guidelines and be part of the group that's spreading the virus and getting people killed or you can behave like a responsible citizen who values life and truth; being a member of a free society means respecting the rights of others

     
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    Pure propaganda from the Church of the Poisoned Mind. Americans have been frightened into walking about with elevated carbon dioxide levels in their blood, and many are loving every minute of it.
     
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    While there are others who hate it because it pains them to see people acting responsibly. These folks don't want to do it, and they need other people to validate them. The reason for the opposition may vary between individuals, but with the existence of both masks and non-restrictive face shields, just about everyone has the ability to wear something without a health detriment.

    But potential health effects aren't what bother you, are they? It's the government mandating folks to do what responsible people were already doing, only we all saw that there were a lot less responsible people out there than we may have thought. I'm not sure what it is about being civically minded and socially respectful that bothers you specifically. Wouldn't these be necessary virtues in a society that wanted to function with limited government?
     
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    There was a time when "acting responsibly" in this country, for elected individuals, meant governing in accordance with constitutional principles. It meant governing in accordance with one's oath of office.

    Those days are gone forever, and there is no better current example of unconstitutional governance than the lockdown orders and associated illegitimate ordinances and rules. Thankfully one federal judge has taken a brave stand and offered a principled opinion.

    Any person can wear a mask anytime he wants to, but he acts irresponsibly when he asks the law to enforce his religious beliefs.
     
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    no they aren't gone, trump is going to be gone soon, though
    trump jail.png
     
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    Meanwhile in the real world it's leftists actually attacking police stations and burning them to the ground as they attempt to barricade cops inside.
     
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    Emergency Orders are not unconstitutional though.

    https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/commentary/constitutional-guide-emergency-powers
     
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    I do understand and agree with that.

    The point is that Covid is not smallpox. 10 months in, with the data becoming more apparent, Covid is pretty much as dangerous as the flu. It is simply one more virus the human species must learn to live with, its engineered for gain of function status notwithstanding. Mad scientists working under cover of CDC are still mad scientists.
     
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    I agreed with everything you said there but just that one point. I don’t like the mask orders any more than you do and I was very resistant of them at first, but I wore them because I had COVID before and didn’t want to chance something that the so-called experts like Fauci and Birx know absolutely nothing about and I didn’t want to send mixed signals to my little boy who is very good about social distancing and masking up without my help. Plus, most businesses around here require customers to wear a mask for now.
     
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    Even Trump understands that to be false...we know that because he said it ON TAPE
     
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    That tape was never authenticated. It’s a fake. ESPECIALLY if that sleazy ambulance-chasing “journalist” like Bob Woodward has it in his possession.
     
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    So says QAnon

    Even Trump has not made that claim
     
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    I understand. It is and always has been my position that any person can wear a mask if he so wishes. I have absolutely no problem with anybody wearing a mask for whatever reason he might have.

    My objection is when special interests attempt to usurp power by passing ordinances and rules that have no legitimate legal foundation, rules that demand people wear obstructive devices to their airways, rules brought under fraud and deception.

    I fully respect the right of any merchant to demand the wearing of masks to enter their place of business. I simply avoid those places of business. Here in FL many if not most merchants no longer demand the wearing of masks by patrons. I feel great empathy for those poor individuals who must wear a mask to keep a job.

    Walking around with elevated levels of carbon dioxide in one's blood is not a pleasant thing to do, and it's not good for health.
     
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    So now you want me to live my life in accordance with what Donald Trump says? Egads, truth is stranger than fiction.
     

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