Fascism is arresting your political opponents. Trump and Barr are Fascist.

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

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    Somewhat, as all presidents attempt to acquire more power, but they pale to the affronts on democracy committed by Barr and Trump.

    Holder doesn't even come close to Barr, in terms of authoritarianism.

    If that sort of thing really bothered you, you'd be hailing against Barr, especially Trump, yet you are silent, so apparently it doesn't bother you at all.

    How Trump Fuels the Fascist Right
    https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/11/29/how-trump-fuels-the-fascist-right/
    President Trump makes constant use of the language and logic of the “new right,” a toxic blend of antebellum white supremacy, twentieth-century fascism, European far-right movements of the 1970s, and today’s self-identified “alt-right.” And his words and deeds have empowered and enabled an upsurge of white nationalists and extremist organizations—from Atomwaffen to the Proud Boys to the Rise Above Movement—that threatens to push the country into violent social conflict. Amplified by social media, this new right rhetoric is inciting unstable men to violence through pipe-bomb mailings and temple shootings. It is crucial for the American people to identify and oppose this radicalization, in order to steer the country back to a steadier path.

    Everything about Trump’s discourse—the words he uses, the things he is willing to say, when he says them, where, how, how many times—is deliberate and intended for consumption by the new right. When Trump repeatedly accuses a reporter of “racism” for questioning him about his embrace of the term “nationalist,” he is deliberately drawing from the toxic well of white supremacist discourse and directly addressing that base. Trump’s increasing use of the term “globalist” in interviews and press conferences—including to describe Jewish advisers such as Gary Cohn or Republican opponents like the Koch brothers—is a knowing use of an anti-Semitic slur, in the words of the Anti-Defamation League, “a code word for Jews.” Trump’s self-identification as a “nationalist,” especially in contrast to “globalists” like George Soros, extends a hand to white nationalists across the country. His pointed use of the term “politically correct,” especially in the context of the Muslim ban, speaks directly to followers of far-right figures such as William Lind, author of “What is ‘Political Correctness’?”
     
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    Some folks actually prefer authoritarianism just like there were people who were loyalists to the throne and preferred a king and generational aristocracy.

    Barr is a one man horror show exclusive of Trump.
     
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    Does anyone else find these constant failed attempts by fasc-gressives to paint everyone they don't like as fascists to be kinda ironic and funny? I guess one could say they are acting like a bunch of, I dunno, fascists.
     
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    Did you hear about the IRS Scandal, where they targeted Tea Party groups?

    Didn't you see Obama sign an executive order for DACA after admitting many time he didn't have the Constitutional authority to do it?

    Or did you hear that the Obama Administration spied on the opposition campaign and then whe he lost they still tried to impeach him based on the trumped up evidence?

    You people are so far out of touch with reality it's mind boggling.

    What, by comparison has Trump done or Barr done to exceed their authority?
     
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    Facism has been in practice in this country for years, and it is growing.
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

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    What does a fascist sound like? A fascist sounds just like this:

     
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    Swallow the words of a fascist in action:

     
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    Fascism is supporting rioting and mob rule. Democrat mayors and governors are fascists. But the most egregious fascists are the anti-fascists.
     
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    Alarming the population about fabian fascism is not fascism. Think of us as the vaccine against right wing authoritarianism.

    This speech is right out of a fascist's playbook, it's pure demagoguery/propaganda

     
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    Gaslighting, are we?

    this man is everything a freedom loving, a liberal democracy loving person, should fear, this is the voice of fascism on the rise. this speech is right out of the demagogues playbook.

     
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    Good lord.
     
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    Barr is right to say that we need a stronger executive branch. That is not to say that he supports fascism or a dictatorship. The presidency is limited to two 4 year terms. It's the congress and the Judiciary that have been tyrannical and have far exceeded their authority.

     
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    but nobody has given explains of Barr doing the things you claim...in factj just the opposite it was Biden, Obama and Holder locking up political rivals.

    and using the term globalist is facist and makes Trump...the father of a jew, who's grand children are Jewish Anti-Semtic? The man that recognized the true capitol of Israel as the capitol is anti-Semitic? The man that has gotten historic deals with Arab nations to recognize the Jewish State...is anti-Semitic? Sorry...that dog wont hunt.

    THe DNC on the other hand, has a long history with hating Jews...I won't get into the KKK years, but even today...from Omar and the left defending her, to Obama and his pastor ...

    This thread proves one thing...Dems like to project
     
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    Translation: Everyone politically opposed to me is a fascist. Silence them (just like an actual fascist would do but thats not really what it is because we say we are anti-fascist even though we use all the same methods and tactics and logic and intimidation tactics and violence - but we are really not fascists we promise, fingers crossed)
     
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    That's true....the left wing media has admitted that terrorist will riot unless Biden wins...https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/09/democrats-may-not-be-able-concede/616321/

    Frankly, it's quite facist to use brown shirt terrorist to make these threats....glad the President is calling them out ...we should not accept the threats by the Facist Dems
     
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    I don't think most people are accepting it at all. Let me just say I don't wonder why ammo is scarce.
     
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    If there wasn't already a movie called Gray Lady Down, that title would make for a good documentary about the downfall of the New York Times.

    NYT has really shown it's true bias colors since 2016. It's gotten even worse in the last year, starting with the whole Tom Cotton/op-ed episode.
     
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    "Oh no the Orange Man Bad is using his authoritarianism to cut taxes and make peace deals in the Middle East!

    He's prosecuting violent Antifa fascist rioters in federal courts, oh no!

    He's making trade deals and fighting for the working people which is forcing the middle class vote for him!"
     
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    It's not dems versus repubs, it's liberals versus conservatives ( or their earlier incarnations )

    The dems of the south of the antebellum years were not liberal. The repubs who liberated the blacks were not conservative. These concepts did not exist at that time,
    as parties were divided in terms of robber barrons and poor worker and filthy working conditions ( the industrialized north ) and agricultural/pro slave ( the south )

    BOTH were ****ed up.

    And let's set the record straight, Lincoln DID NOT free the slaves because he was concerned about the inhumanity of their captivity, he only supported freeing the slaves as the only constitutional means of saving the union, for in this letter written by Lincoln, responding to an editorial in the NYTimes by Horace Greeley, why he hadn't yet written an emancipation proclamation, Lincoln wrote:

    Of course, he did, underneath it all, wish that all men be free, but he wouldn't free the slaves if he could save the union without doing it. In other words, if he could save the union without a war, a war that would lead to the deaths of many men ( mostly white) one that would free the slaves, he would do it, no matter if he personally wished that all men be free. That was the point of that letter. His sole motivation, as he stated, wasn't to free the slaves, per se, only to save the union, and freeing the slaves was the only way to do it. It was a by-product secondary to the objective of saving the union.

    And you now what, none of the antebellum crap that y'all like to pin on dems, is relevant today, because that is a bygone era. All that matters is the modern era.

    Things be changin'.

    Moving on to the modern era, 40s onward

    The people who voted for the civil rights bill were liberal, the people who introduced the bill were liberal.

    People who voted for social security / medicaid, etc.,OSHA working conditions, drug standards, etc etc etc were LIBERAL, conservatives fought it all the way, and there
    were liberal and conservative factions on each side back then, not so much today.

    The country was founded as a liberal democracy/representative democracy. That's what the term Republic, means.

    The vast majority of jews are DEMOCRATS.

    Todays KKK favor TRUMP. Today's white supremacists, neo-nazis, favor TRUMP.

    crusader.jpg

    So, learn how to tell the truth, cause truth telling eludes you.
     
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    There is a reason why Trump is the inarguable king of the birthers.
     
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    liberal v conservative are adjectives (both parties like had people with these traits)..what you are looking for is Liberal v Conservative...well I don't know if Liberal is what they called themselves, "Progressives" - who knows.....but folks like that have always ID with the Dem party..and Conservatives (which means a belief in the US Constitution) have always ID with the GOP.

    The biggest White Supremist today just endorced Biden : https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2...paign-swiftly-disavows-white-nationalist.html
     
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    So do you not read what other people post or watch the news,? Of do you just go at the beat of your own drum even if it's wrong? Because if you want to see what Fascism look like, go look at Portland, Seattle, and Minneapolis
     
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    Actually, it's a rather recent development. Each party had a liberal and conservative wing, and those didn't thin out until. well, the tides turned on moderates when Gingrich was speaker. After him, things went down hill and become more polarized. The moderates began thinning on the right when Reagan repealed the fairness doctrine, which paved the way for Limbaugh, and years of his spewing 'hate-the-left' 3 hours day, 5 days a week, spawned the T party, more polarization ensued, then the freedom caucus, more creatures of hate-left ilk spawned like Hannity, Levin, Savage, etc, and so a huge crowd of alt-right types grew, which Hillary referred to as 'the deplorables' which was tapped into by Trump, he became the personification of that movement. It can be traced all the way back to the repeal of the fairness doctrine by Reagan.

    So, no, it's not "always", not by a long shot, historically speaking.

    As for Spencer, you've been duped.
    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/...acist-richard-spencer-didnt-endorse-joe-biden
     
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    That's just anger, anger at white cops shooting unarmed blacks, and a few criminal opportunists taking ****.

    THIS is fascism

    https://tinyurl.com/y4ckmdan
     
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    So attaching people who are wearing MAGA hat is what?
     
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