Woman gets tased, hand-cuffed, and arrested for "not wearing a mask."

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  1. Woogs

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    Let's just agree to disagree. Very early in the thread I posted the actual wording from the governor's EO, which clearly specifies the exemptions to the order. If that puts me in the "conspiracy zone", so be it.
     
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    Nobody is arguing that. What you haven't shown is that local jurisdictions can't tighten the regulations.
     
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    she was aware of the policy. Not necessarily. Only that woman knows what she is or isn't aware of.
    leave the stadium. If its public, which some say it is, some say it isn't. So that needs to be clarifed. They can't just 86 you from public property just because. They have to have just cause to do so and it has to be legal. I don't know what transcribed before the video. So I'm only going off that.
     
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    I will take it a step further. High Schools should stop having football games. There is a clear correlation between playing football and long term brain damage. This is not just limited to players who suffer knock-outs. Linemen who generally don't get knocked out suffer brain damage. Just saying.
     
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    Why does she have a mask if she's exempt? Think about it. She just had it in her pocket, and rather than use her exemption, she put it on? You can't possibly believe that.
     
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    Generally speaking, state law supercedes local law when there is a conflict. Given that, I shouldn't have to show otherwise.
     
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    Whenever you discover that you are living in Police State it really is time to "Defund the Police."
     
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    You are making too much sense. If I had been her, I might have also sat there without a mask. However, I would have put it on as soon as someone would have come close to me, including the police officer. And then I would have apologized for not keeping the mask on and setting a bad example for the students.

    I walk around our campus often without mask, when nobody is around. However, as faculty, we are urged by the administration to wear masks at all times, to set a good example for the students. That's why I ALWAYS put on the mask when others are around, even when far away. Why is it so difficult for people to be even slightly inconvenienced for the greater good? i don't get it.
     
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    You haven't shown that state law prohibits local jurisdictions from tightening the guidelines. Trying to reword the argument doesn't change this.
     
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    The nature of government is to increase control much like the nature of a ball is to roll downhill. But the left does not need reeducation camps. They control the education system and much of the media. A young person today is living in a reeducation camp.
     
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    'Some animals are more equal that other animals.'

     
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    She was tased for resisting arrest, not for being maskless.

    The law & order folks on this forum who always say to obey the police and you'll be fine should not have a problem with this.
     
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    I didn't assert such, so not up to me to prove it. You're the one making a positive assertion, so up to you to prove it.
     
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    The existence of official school district and police department policy does just that.
     
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    Why were they arresting her then, if it wasn't for being maskless?
     
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    They were arresting her for being maskless. Her resisting that arrest is what led to the tasing. She wasn't tased for being maskless. This is how it is always portrayed when it happens to a black person, there should be no different standard here. Doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with whether she should be arrested for being maskless, she disobeyed a police officer.
     
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    She was arrested for trespassing. But you already know that, as it's been repeated a dozen times in this thread.
     
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    We can disagree and despise the mask requirement, but fact is the taser, cuffs and arrest where for not leaving when lawfully asked then ordered to do so not because she was not wearing mask.
     
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    Anyone look at this video of a large black police office manhandling the white woman and think "RACISM?" Just askin.
     
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    You seem obsessed with "black people". As though "black people" justify this woman being tased, handcuffed, and arrested for not wearing a mask.

    Tell me this then, when has a black man ever been tased, handcuffed, and arrested for not wearing a mask? And even if one was, why would it justify this woman being tased, handcuffed, and arrested for not wearing a mask?
     
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    Looked to me like he was frisking her at first, and then feeling her up, really creepy like. Maybe the victim should file a sexual assault case against him.
     
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    Why would she be trespassing and the others sitting around her not trespassing? Are you just making this stuff up as you go?
     
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    I've been doing some checking. The local authorities are claiming they are enforcing the rules as set forth by the Athletic Association's rules.

    "During a middle school football game held at the Logan-Hocking Local School District on the evening of September 23, 2020, an attendee was asked to comply with the Ohio High School Athletic Association’s and the athletic facility’s policies,” the district’s superintendent Monte Bainter told NBC News in a statement. “The attendee refused to do so and consequently was asked to leave by the attending law enforcement officer. After resisting the request to exit the premises, the individual was apprehended at the discretion of the attending law enforcement officer.”

    That's faulty, however, as these rules don't cover spectators. There is a directive from the Department of Health, dated August 19, that covers sports, including both participants and spectators. That directive is to supersede previous directives. It mandates the wearing of masks but, like the governor's original EO, has an exemption for medical conditions.

    No direct link to the directive(it's a pdf), but it can be reached from this link
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wl...w-ohio-sports-here-s-what-s-included/33636453
    The pertinent info regarding spectators is on page 5. The info regarding it superceding prior directives is on page 12.

    So, to me it looks like the cop tried to enforce something he had no right enforcing, given that the woman claimed medical exemption and the directive allows for that. Whether it was "smart" to resist is another matter, but she was apparently within her rights not to wear a mask according to the latest directive.
     
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    Wonder if she'll get a settlement for it.
     

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