Now, the liberals move to control your diet....

when it comes to eating carbs, the key is to not eat more than you can store safely in the liver... and before you eat more, make sure to empty the liver of some carbs via activity, when you go over that limit, that is when the trouble starts

but remember that sugar and fruits also have fructose in them, which is processed by the liver the same as alcohol, so try to reduce the fructose for the same reason one reduces alcohol intake

moderation is key, corps add sugar to almost everything nowadays, read the labels

 

Damn you to hell!

Now I have to get my QPC fix on at Mickey Ds.

Help me Sylvester Turner!

Where are you when I need you Governor Abbott?

All of my lib Rock stars leave me in the lurch against the nastiness deliciousness of the MCD QPC: Beatles, Stones, Floyd and Zepp - nothing do they offer to dissuade me from the knarly QPC.

Help me Oprah!, Dr. Phill, Joe Rogan!

Pffffttt..... meh!

 

I will give you one of life's most valuable secrets- and that is the understanding of power.... YOUR power. It is foolish not to control the things you have the power to control- and of course, that is common today. At the same time, it is foolish to try and control what you have no power to control- and that is also common today. Those who do this waste vast amounts of their energy in this way. They create in themselves feelings of failure and guilt because they do not get results. At the same time, the attempt to control what you have no power over helps those who will not control themselves believe that their problems exist because you- who have tried to control their problems- have failed them. They have proof it is your responsibility, because you came along and picked it up. There is nothing they can do for themselves, because that is your job and you failed. Attempting to help when you lack the power- big mistake for both of you.

Focus on and control what you have the power to control, and that is you. Do not transfer that power or responsibility to others, do not let them take it with promises of helping, and do not accept their effort to hold you responsible for controlling them.

For the most part the idea we can control others is an illusion. There are times we can help others find answers, achieve goals, etc- because we can teach, we can lead, and we can keep the game of life fair... or can, if people in power will act responsibly. But we cannot legislate or impose changes in the way people think or what they believe. Only they can do that. If and when they decide it is up to them and nobody else- they will either use their own power to change themselves, or simply surrender to failure. You cannot control that decision, because it is not within your power- or any person except that individual.

Obesity is a huge and growing problem. I believe there is some genetics involved, because we all have proclivities and particular issues. The catch is whether or not you are willing to accept the responsibility for dealing with the hand you were dealt and making the most of what you have, or not- and that means accepting responsibility for yourself, using the power to control what you can control For obese people, that is primarily eating and exercise. Despite the genetic predisposition, the fact is that our caloric intake is just like fuel in a car, it limits the range. The number of pills, treatments, diets, gadgets and medical options we have to control obesity is vast, and a great many people have used these things successfully- but far too many more who will not. We aren't short of understanding how it works, but if the person themselves is not ready to take control of the problem, nobody else can.

Without the committed power that lies only in the person themselves, nothing will change the problem. The number one, most powerful tool in this or any battle- is self.

 

Part their diet, part their culture, do you agree?

 

Never go there.

Never.

Either go somewhere where they sell food, or make your own. I get my hamburger from a local farm.

Trader Joes sells New Zealand hamburger, grass fed, they don't bother with a lot of the crap our guys do. I got that before I went local.

 

I’m with you. The last time I went to McDonalds or any other crap fast food restaurant was when I was in college...31 years ago.

 

Geez spiritguide, you are scraping the bottom of the barrel now, with this nanny-state conspiracy nonsense.

The nation needs to reduce its intake of junk food, sugar drinks, grog, tobacco...and the CEOs and companies concerned should be sacked and closed for the diabetes and obesity epidemics for which they are responsible.

Just think, we could save many $trillions of expenditure on the production, marketing, advertising, transport and sales of the junk consumer industry especially in regard to "food" (a misnomer for some of the stuff they peddle).

And thus free up the resources (materials, labour know-how) to enable the US treasury to fund a transition to green electricity production, at no cost to us.....

Obviously heresy, in your individual enterprise dogma.

A question of values I suppose.

 

If you followed the post, you would see my "mia culpa", apology for my mis-understanding the intent of the law. It is not, as I first took it, an end run to prevent people from buying junk foods; it is a law telling grocers that they cannot stock such items within 3 ft of a cash register. That is a very big difference. Still a dictation to grocers with the intent of altering the public's choices, but not nearly as offensive as I first took it to be. This is the third time I've stated this, I was wrong.

It is hard for me to look at anything coming out of California government without being pretty sure they were creating another joke law. The track record makes it the most likely thing to expect.

However, the real issue in not that the government should control us to the point they decide what is good to eat. We have obesity because people do not control themselves, and that is their job, not the job of government, which obviously cannot control it anyway.

 

Right. Sorry I missed your apology to others.

However, government should take the private sector's <profit motive> to task when it is a drain on the nation's resources and injurious to the nation's health, via enlightening education, especially public education, which government CAN control...

(I'm hoping public education is not offensive to an 'individual enterprise" ideology).

 

There are two sides to teaching. The best teacher in the world cannot teach a person who is not ready to learn. I learned the truth of that through teaching. All the things people need to know to build a great life are public, in libraries, on the internet, a host of places. They are of course mixed in with tons of garbage from people who think everyone but them is stupid, so it is a mental challenge- one of training your mind and knowing yourself, your objectives, your limitations.

Old asian quote-

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear". The teacher is always there- it is the student not being able or ready to see that assures he will remain ignorant.
The essential secrets to a successful life can be written on a business card. However, knowing them is not what makes them work- believing them and living them is.
Most people want the answers to fit in neatly with what they already think they know. Insures they cannot change.

 

Here is your problem. Only a small number of people are highly disciplined and highly self-controlled. You can demand and expect that people be extremely self-disciplined and ambitious but that just doesn't happen in history.

Your post assumes that self-control is unlimited and it can only attained by focus of the mind. Research has shown that self-control is a muscle and like a muscle it can be worn out. If you want it to be strong, you have to keep exercising it but it is still limited like even the strongest muscles. Research has also shows that people who exercise their self-control the most are the ones who eventually break. This is because it easily wears out. The most successful people are the ones who don't put themselves in situations where they need to use self control.

Remember, humans are just apes with big brains and we aren't completely rational or self-controlled. We also tend to follow our culture and the actions of those around us. This is called peer pressure and social proof. America has this culture of junk food that is unfortunately introduced to children at an early age by their parents. You can be all for individualism but people are social creatures and often blindly follow the values of their culture. Like their religion, habits, etc.

Humans evolved in very tough environments and evolved to crave high calorie and high sugar foods like meat or fruit. Problem is that today, we have everything we need to eat, so now our brains are programmed to binge. Also, corporations took food scientists in labs and processed and distilled the most addicting parts of foods like white sugar, oil, white flour, meat, etc. They combined them into the most addicting combinations that will hack our brains. These products aren't natural food and are way too much of a good thing. They do the immense damage to the human body in ways we are just learning.

The problem is that with our limited self control its hard to deny ourselves foods that are made by corporations to hack our brains. Some people are better than others but a lot of that comes down to genetics as research is showing. As a result, 66% of the population is overweight or obese and in some places its more like 80%. Even in places with low obesity like Europe and East Asia we are seeing rising obesity rates like the US experienced in the mid 20th century.

The solution is simply to make it harder to obtain these products and remove them from sight. This is the most successful strategy to self control. This is why removing these products from checkout lines is a good idea that is backed up by actual science. This is why we also regulate and tax cigarettes, alcohol, and drugs. These products are also addicting and hack the human brain.

 

Simple. Because you started you support the actin because you've fallen prey to the marketing strategy in the past.

It's not bad. It's awful.

Government is not in place to play nanny. They are legislating where a market can place certain products so people aren't tempted with unhealthy items.

Government is in place to support free and fair markets, not act like my mother.

Help what?

What does this legislation help?

 

Solution:
1. Get government out of the healthcare business.
2. Divert the revenue into individual healthcare accounts for the productive working class.
3. Allow those who maintain their health and save on healthcare to eventually spend the money on other things or pass it on to their heirs.

Let millions of healthy lifestyles bloom - instantly.

 

I blame the schools, but there are also a lot Big Government RP nannies in Washington.
Government subsidized schools may make sense, but government run schools are just another dangerous boondoggle.
At this stage it amounts to child abuse to turn a child over to them.
In America there is no excuse for every child not reading Common Sense a few times before they hit middle school.

 

Making excuses for not being responsible for yourself is timeless. Despite what you think you see- Whether or not you are able to control yourself is totally dependent on whether you want to or not. It IS a choice- just as believing you can't is a choice, you can believe you can. IF you believe you can't then you can't- but you are still the person who made that condition your choice. The fact many fail usually is due to many not seriously trying. IF failure is an option, you probably will.

I never said this was an easy thing to do. It's easy for the animals in nature, all of them know it- because they were always raised with the concept they were responsible, and nobody told them differently. Domesticate a baby wild animal, and it becomes unable to survive in the wild because we "cared" for it, making it unnecessary for it to learn to do for itself. This caring makes them dependent on us. While dependence is a kind of curse on natural life, humans use it as a way to feel valuable (we're generous, caring) - and to control others, sometimes make us feel necessary and/or superior. It also gives us power over those who must depend on us, and unfortunately, humans like that. Humans invented the idea of transference and have been blaming others for our own choices for thousands of years. But it is not genetically bred in. Culturally conditioned- yes. So if you are unable to reject a cultural concept and think for yourself, you are stuck. But still by your choice.

The key factor is that if you learn these skills, you solve a multitude of life issues in a single stroke, and all for the better. And it's not near as complicated as it seems. The primary reason people can't do this is that they have already been programmed with so much garbage they can't see or understand how these skills can work. The big job is not learning the skills... it's discarding all the garbage. Talking someone into doing that is impossible without their being determined to do so. The garbage is the only security they know, and no matter how bad things are, they don't want to let go of where they are until the have one foot in the better place they are going too- and that is not possible. You have to leave the place, the mindset you are secure in, and be totally determined to reach the new one. Generally speaking, the person who can look at their situation and say "If I die trying, then I die- but I'm going anyway" is the one that succeeds. Takes courage; or desperation, or dedication- maybe all of that. One psychologist in a class of mine told me it was impossible, but admitted I had done it.

You are wrong about successful people not using self-control. Every decision such people make is aligned with long-term objectives, which is how they can reach long term objectives. They do not allow things to throw them off-course. I've been a business owner for over 50 years. I'm an inventor, and investor, and entrepreneur. I've been told what I was doing was impossible many times- and usually I can say, "you're too late; we've already done it". It is always a pleasure to help someone who is ready to learn- to master themselves, find their best, make their fortune. Sadly, the number who are ready to do that is small. Too few believe in themselves, and if you don't, you are not ready or able to learn those things. That too- is a choice. Trust in yourself. Everyone has the ability; nature gave it to you just as it gave every other creature on earth the ability to be great at being what it is. You may have to dig hard and long, and abandon things you believe to find that ability- but you do have it. Many successful people helped me, because I ask them to share the secrets of success- and most are happy to, IF the person asking does so right.

 

Does anyone here think California's lawmakers believe their residents are either too stupid to watch what they eat or are too weak and unable to control their impulses?

The left has been screaming about losing freedoms under Trump but can't name any. California probably regulates, bans or requires people to do and not do more things than any other place in the country. And the stores this law will impact eliminates the freedom for stores to put their products anywhere they want.

But I'm glad California solved all their other problems and found time to work on this

 

I never claimed people shouldn't be responsible for themselves. Also, calling my arguments excuses doesn't refute them.

Wrong, research has shown that self control is a limited resource like a muscle that can be worn out. Every single person will eventually break if a challenging activity is extended long enough. Don't believe me? Try it. Try running as long as you can. Eventually you will stop, even before you physically have to. Some people can run until they physically break down, but that is because they trained their self control slowly like a muscle.

Self control isn't easy for tasks that are difficult and it is impossible for sufficiently difficult tasks. You keep saying we have a choice. But your rational mind isn't in full control. We have this whole ape brain underneath our reasoning area that has control too. People don't make completely logical choices, we need our emotions to make decisions, and without them its really hard to make choices. Because emotions are required for choices, you can't completely escape them.

Just look at the people who try to choose to quit smoking cold turkey. 95%-97% fail to quit for longer than six months. And many of that 2-5% smoke go back to their old habits eventually. 90% of people who lose weight eventually gain it all back. Food and cigarettes are just really addicting and the success rate isn't good at all.

Yes we have all this cultural garbage. This is because when you look at psychology, people are extremely influenced by their culture and the opinions of those around them. Even you and me. Literally that cultural stuff is being hardwired into your brain as a child when your brain is still developing. I try to be objective and question my assumptions, and I do a reasonably good job. But I know I have limitations.

I'm not wrong about successful people using self control. There was actually a study of many different types of people. The study asked them to write down every time they had a temptation and what they did about it. When the results were in, they found that the people who had resisted the most temptation were the ones who eventually broke down. The most successful people were the ones who had the fewest temptations to begin with and were not in situations where the temptation even happened.

Another study was of children. They had a marshmallow placed in front of them and told that if they didn't eat it in five minutes while the person was away, they would receive two. This is a particular weakness of children. What the study found was that the children with greatest self control went on to be happier and more successful. This is common knowledge to many people.

But there is one thing that few people know. The most successful children weren't the ones who just watched the marshmallow and grit their teeth and beared it. It was the childen who covered their eyes or hide in the corner away from the marshmallow. This shows that avoiding situations were you have to use self control is the most effective method to actually succeeding.

Rather than trying to fight off procrastination at home while studying, maybe just go to the library and bring your books with you. Rather than avoiding that temptation to grab that candy bar in the fridge, throw all the junk food in your house away, and try to avoid places that have temptation. You need to be smart about working with the limitations of your brain rather than just fighting it and failing. This is because self control is a limited resource and you don't want to run out of it.

Because junk food is basically a drug that is made to be addicting to the brain like cigarettes and crack, it is really hard to resist especially when it is in front of our faces when we are driving around and shopping for food. People would have a lot better time of it if it was a lot more expensive, wasn't out in the open, and was harder to get to.

 

science shows that children are vulnerable to this candy's placement, that is why they place it there

I have no issue with them moving it

sugar is like a drug, it is addictive

 

yet republicans won't let stores sell plants - their drug war is the biggest violation of our freedoms yet

I will admit, even the right is changing their views on that though

 

It's Berkeley, not the state of California.

It's called Bezerkley for a reason.

We can't have anything within 18 inches of any inside wall in our plant. Don't know if it's city, county, state or OSHA, but government tells all kinds of businesses where they can and can't put things. Nothing unusual about it.

 

How is the diet being controlled exactly?
The OP doesn't say. It only says it's not going to be in a certain locatio of a store.

Another fake tRUMPism?

 

What do you think is next? Out right ban on cigarettes? They've been banned from under 18 for many many years already.

 

Good catch, but it gets better than that. The irony is sharp.

There was a time when cigarettes were displayed in the open. I've thrown many a carton of Kool in my cart while shopping. Individual packs were available in the checkout lines.

Government has been restricting placement of addictive items for awhile.

 

They're getting fatter because they're eating more meat and dairy.

 

On of the reasons I'm a libertarian.