Parents Sent Teen to School Knowing He Had COVID

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  1. (original)late

    (original)late Banned

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    Not how the game works, would a participation trophy make you feel better?
     
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    Another indication that the debate has been lost, childish responses/posts.
     
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    I, too, am concerned about the collateral damage in the wake of this pandemic. It will be a long, long time before things get back to normal and it's possible it never will. I know that I've changed throughout this quarantine (and most of that is related to my children's safety and the roles others play in that).

    I understand why you hold the position you do. I would feel the same way if I didn't know of anyone that got sick and/or didn't make it or know others that know someone that's died from it. We had two deaths at our local hospital (in a very small town of less than 10K). And, it will probably be a long time before we know of the ones that survived but developed long-term health problems.

    While the "regular" flu is very contagious and kills many each season, I am not aware of any long term secondary health conditions from it. For me, that's a game changer. Realistically, most middle-aged people have some kind of health problem and, as of now, there is no way to determine who has it if they are asymptomatic and who will get the ongoing health problems later. I want to believe it will all balance out and we will develop herd immunity at some point. I just find it premature to conclude that it's "nothing".

    P.S. Thanks for the compliment and ditto.
     
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    That is fine if we were not talking about...

    1. The number of secondary infections that have statistically higher odds of death and long-term health problems,
    2. The possibility of long-term health problems (ie heart disease) and others that may not be known at this point,
    3. The community spreading the infection outside as it's not happening in a vacuum.
     
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    It's community spread.
    It's everywhere.
    Stop quaking about things you can't controll
     
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    Giving up already?
    C'mon "science" person, give it a whirl.
     
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    knowingly sending a child to school after being confirmed to have covid is something I think we could all just agree is wrong

    I would say the same if she sent the child to a Trump rally, it's just wrong
     
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    One constant is crap.

    If the loony Right isn't denying medical science, they are pretending they can rewrite law, or rewrite climate science. They'll parrot anything, even Koch's neo-Bircher insanity.

    This isn't NEJM, we're not Docs, much less specialists. And you can't change a damn thing.

    So man up, wear your mask, and carry on.
     
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    Wow, that was an awesome presentation of the "science" of masks.

    Can you say, "Science" again?
    You sound so authoritative on the subject.
     
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    He was exposed to it in the same place everyone else is exposed to it, the community.
    There is no escaping.
     
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    agree, but that doesn't mean one sends him to school or a trump rally to infect everyone else - this is a confirmed case, she knows the child has it
     
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    Sadly, we live in a world where people blame the victim instead of holding the perpetrator(s) accountable for their actions. I think it's irrelevant if everyone will eventually get it because there are ways to greatly decrease one's chance of getting it and a big part of that is to NOT willfully expose other people when one knows they are infected.

    I must admit that I'm biased in this situation. I went to school with someone whose mother died of tuberculosis. In short, a family friend took a sip of the girl's mother coffee and transmitted the disease. In another incident, my pregnant cousin was asked to sit for her neighbor's kids. The parent knew one of the girls had chicken pox (which can be detrimental to a fetus). My cousin almost died and lost her baby from the exposure.

    So, NO, I do not think it's just "no harm, no foul" when people KNOWINGLY expose other people to their infections. It may not be criminal, but it's certainly unethical and selfish.
     
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    There's many, many more just like him, in every corner of the community, we just haven't tested them, and they innoculated him, just like every one else will be innoculated
     
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    Timeout!
    This isn't creative writing class.
    Qualify and quantify your assertion.
     
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    An uninfected person that never leaves their home or has any contact with anyone will not get the virus.
     
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    Has there been an interview or comment from the parents on why they allowed this to happen?
     
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    I agree...I have people who are at risk and staying home, wearing a mask or other precautions are reasonable. Two days ago the community was notified that a student in my sons school tested positive... now we all have choices to make regarding remote or hybrid schedules for school.
     
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    I just did a quick search and didn't find any updates on it. Overall, parents and school officials are just confused as to why a parent would make such a decision. I don't blame them for that.

    I'm sorry you all are facing this. It's unconscionable to me. I hope your family and community can come up with a good workable plan.
     
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    If you dig a hole, climb in, and cover yourself with dirt, you won't get infected either.
    Now we both know that both of those scenarios are ridiculous. And we both know you've left your home, which makes you a denier of your own "science", which you just took the time to put into type

    So when you comin' down large with the "science", ....for realz this time?
     
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    while that is true, I think Palin's quote on Abstinence applies here, "It's just not realistic"

    thus why wearing masks and social distancing is the better option

    Trump says the vaccine will be released in about a month, so we can all do it till then
     
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    The REALITY that we live in is that "experts" are still learning about this virus and its long-term impact on the body's various systems. Yes, I would love to believe that it's nothing and we'll get back to some semblance of normalcy but that's not the card we were dealt, is it? I wish I could live in a bubble and not worry about my kids going to school (especially with other kids whose parent/s may or may not be as equally selfish and irresponsible) and two elderly parents with their own health problems. And, like most responsible adults, I don't have the luxury of pretending something is not a risk because it's not in my backyard.

    P.S. You may have missed your calling as a comedian. Your comments in this thread almost made me chuckle. ;-0
     
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    Of course. I made that comment in response to another poster saying that everyone is going to get it. Since it's not realistic to live inside one's home with no human contact, other recommendations (ie. masks, hand washing, social distancing, etc.) are there for mitigation. Personally, I don't understand why people need to be told to wash their hands, stop touching their face and don't step into other people's personal space. ;-)
     
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    the ones that also kill me recently, is the ones I see with the mask below their nose
     
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    I use this handy dandy chart... ;-)

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    The effects from the virus or effects from the immune systems of a small subset of the population?

    Viral cardiomyopathy, kawasaki disease, Guillain-Barré syndrome, SLE, and a whole host of imuuno mediated rheumatologic diseases are not new
     

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