NEW REPORT: PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS 3,400 CONFLICTS OF INTEREST

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    Like what?
     
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    All of them to do with renting hotel rooms to foreigners...
     
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    Because foreign nations have compromised Biden's family.
     
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    In what way? Be specific. And if doing business in a foreign country "compromises" your family, I suppose you will also say the same thing about Trump.
     
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    like you said, he's doing shady stuff for them....millions of dollars of it....
     
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    How does that compromise Joe? And what shady stuff was he doing? I can easily name some shady stuff the Trump kiddos have done. I guess that means Donald is compromised.
     
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    Because he's the father....I don't know you said he did shady stuff.

    I don't know about you, but threats to my children might compromise me....

    What ties to the Communist Party of China do the Trump kids have? what are they doing for their military?
     
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    No, I said he may have. I have no idea if he did or not. I do know, however, that Trump's kids engaged in shady stuff.

    Then I guess Trump is compromised.

    Hooray for shifting the goalposts. Always a fun pastime. But Ivanka must have some pretty close ties, thanks to her Dad, given how they fast tracked her trademark requests . . . hm, and right after that her daddy agreed to help save ZTE.
     
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    Lol, not even remotely close.
     
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    Like what?

    Have they got 3.5 million wired to them from the Mayor of Moscow? Flew on Air Force 2 to set up million dollar funds with the Chinese and deals with the Chinese military?

    How so?

    How fast? She waited years for those, and then closed the business down anyway to work in the Admin.

    Trump got a great deal for use with the ZTE....millions in fines and total oversight.
     
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    Like overstating the occupancies of their properties in order to defraud potential investors . . . something it looks like Trump himself may have also done.

    The money wasn't from the Mayor of Moscow. It was from the widow of a former mayor. And is it unusual for family members to be allowed to travel on Air Force 2?

    She had them fast tracked in 2 months AFTER joining the admin.
     
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    Compare that to the vast number of democrats who have conflicts of interests, in that they ignore common and respected human values when they criticize Trump; ignoring the basic standards and honorable person must live by to maintain self-respect.... Hate of anyone who kept them from winning over-rides them all.
    Would anyone want that in a president- or any person in power?

    We see it across the board in today's left.
    It's pitiful. You know it, I know it. I think you would feel a lot better about yourself if you came to terms with it.
     
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    1) when did they do that? which investors? where were they investing?
    2) oh his wife....you dont think they have a joint account?
    3) nope they had been pending for years....and it's moot since she gave up her companies
     
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    Trump SoHo. First time hearing about it? They were investing in property. Ivanka and Junior LIED about the number of units that had already sold in order to defraud investors.
    So your new claim is that . . . he's a zombie. Really? Zombie former mayor donates money to Biden . . . now that's a headline.
    These were Chinese trademarks and are ACTIVE trademarks (not ones she's given up). And they were fast tracked in months.
     
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    SOHO is in NYC....which isn't foreign....it's in America...oh did those investors sue? What happened?

    No, he was real...with close ties to the Govt...ie he was the Mayor...

    Well trademarks just don't go away....but she doesn't hae the company anymore...they are meaningless....they took years to get...they were pending well before her father was President.

    You know what's not moot...that 3.5 million and those supplies for the Chinese Military that the Biden's got
     
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    I missed the magic spell that was cast on our country that means no shady things can happen within our borders.

    Yes, they did sue. The Trump crime kiddos fought it at first, but once it was clear that they would lose and that there was a criminal case mounting against them, in addition to the civil case from the investors, they settled . . . once securing an agreement from the plaintiffs that they would not volunteer testimony in the criminal case (same thing that happened with the Trump University scam, btw). After this, and after a visit from one of Trump's lawyers in which he donated money to the DA, the DA dropped the criminal case.

    He WAS mayor. And he WAS alive. He is no longer either.

    Again, completely false. She wanted NEW trademarks to do business in China. She got them. In 2 months. And they are still actively being used. Calling it "moot" isn't honest.

    The 3.5 million that you haven't identified anything wrong about and which, as we have seen, didn't actually have any connection to the Russian government? That 3.5 million? And what's the deal the the Chinese military supplies? Is this going to turn out to be just as bogus?
     
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    we were talking about foreign govts....Russia Communist China ...
    what
    So there is no compromise...they settled and the investors are happy....and there was never any crimnal case...oooook

    Yep....so that begs the question even more....where did the 3.5 million come from? Seems like a nice front for a payout to the Bidens from the Kremlin

    We don't know where it is, but it's got KGB written all over it...we need a full investigation

    I don't think it's a good idea that Biden is compromised with the Communist Chinese...let alone their military
     
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    No, we were talking about kids doing shady stuff. They settled in the plaintiffs' favor after they were shown to have defrauded them. There as a criminal case, it just got dropped after the two additional shady things I mentioned and that you didn't address.

    If that's what you want to believe, then continue wishing upon that star. I'll be interested if you ever come up with any evidence, but not until then.

    "They just gotta be guilty, they gotta be, I know it in my bones!" is not a legal argument.

    You've shown now such "compromise" and you don't care about actual, demonstrable conflicts of interest when it comes to Trump and his family. Sorry, but the concern seems fake.
     
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    1) I was referring to them being compromised....the Trump kids aren't compromised...they got sued....businesses sometimes do...and they settled.....oh they were indicted?
    2) well....maybe we should find out...don't you want to insure he isn't?
    3) Not ure if they are...but an investigaton would clear it up....we know the Senate already found clear Conflicts
    4) a settled lawsuit isn't a desmostrable conflict of interest for Trump
     
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    I've covered your question already, and you can be compromised domestically. It isn't a solely foreign thing. As far as foreign compromise goes, look into Bayrock some time.
    If the legal basis can be formed for an investigation, yes.
    And we've identified many, many more conflicts when it comes to Trump. You know . . . the topic of this thread . . . which you seem unable to address.
    Not even when he sent a lawyer to donate to the DA just before the criminal case was dismissed? You seriously going to play make-believe that you see no conflict in that.
     
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    Clinton never made the argument that he was above the law he was arguing that his testimony on the whiskey scandal was covered by executive privilege that is not the same thing.

    Nixon outright said that the president could not commit a crime because the president was above the law and everything the president did was legal
     
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    Name one.
     
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    Add psychological rigidity, difficulty picking up something with one hand...
     
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