Trump intends to choose Amy Coney Barrett for Supreme Court

You know we rarely agree, but one thousand plus here!

 

Yeh Mon, it’s maybe like I’m a broke watch... Right twice a day no matter what side folks are on.

 

Seriously though, I think having a Mom of 7 kids on the SC who is also an accomplished Professor of Law from Notre Dame ought to be a 100% positive Senate confirmation.

 

What the hell were they then?

What is the result?

 

True. Although they will hold their nose and vote along party lines. I wonder how the 2 adopted kids from Haiti sit with the America first crowd. I like that she did that, but their usual response should have been: Adopt American kids first.

I wonder if she will turn out like another Roberts in 5-10 years? Or even sooner? If that happens, watch the RW label her as the next traitor, just like they did with Roberts.

 

LOL! So much for the "constitutionalists". I guess you'll be okay then to admit that crying "but the constitution" is just an excuse for ruling you don't like, because you are in favor of overturning precedent that is not "settled"?

Note, I agree that law continues to evolve and is never settled, I am just surprised to see several Trump fans on here make that claim.

 

She is a religious extremist and cultist.

 

You asked to equate “worth of parasites” (poorly educated, disabled, sick people and some others) with “worth” of educated, working ones. Of course the financial worth of the “parasites” is lower than financial worth of “not parasites”. More, in absolute terms the financial worth billionaires is greater than the financial worth millionaires and millionaires financial worth is greater than financial worth regular working people.

The relative worth is individually defined – someone’s “parasite” (disabled son) is worth more than a billionaire.

For a society financial worth of what you call “parasites” (poorly educated, disabled, etc) is much lesser than financial worth healthy, working people. The relative worth – depends on who you asking.
You say that "our experience shows that individual help is not working", but, again, you fail to explain why that is, in your opinion. Thus, your position is that although doling out welfare to individuals does nothing that solves any problems, you imagine that levying more taxation on everyone and setting up yet another government bureaucracy to run some other welfare program would provide the needed 'panacea'...?

Thank you for suggestion, I added this book to my list of books worth to read (a very long one).
And you may profit immensely by reading book “23 THINGS THEY DON'T TELL YOU ABOUT CAPITALISM” BY HA-JOON CHANG. The author is Korean and has examples how the country of “parasites”, thanks to a government programs. as transferred to what it is today.

I guess you are talking about the Appalachian people where nearly 17 percent of Central Appalachians live in poverty, compared to “only” 12 percent of all Americans or people who live in black ghettos. I am not sure if these people “laying around endlessly on their asses, supposedly 'unable' to support themselves because of 'issues' that they brought on themselves because of laziness, irresponsibility, negligence, having too much fun on drugs, etc.”, but IMHO we need at least to help their children. Of course you can have a different opinion.

 

You really ARE Mr. Bean aren't you!

 

And, don't forget -- one of the key things that will make her very, very, VERY hard for radical Democrats to attack is the fact that she (a WHITE woman) adopted not merely one, but TWO BLACK CHILDREN FROM HAITI...! To hyperliberal Democrats, where it's "identity-politics" über alles, attacking Judge Barrett is going to be (as the English put it), "a very sticky wicket"....

. "She did WHAT...?! You've GOT to be kidding me...!"

 

I think you've forgotten that the English word, "worth", has more than one meaning! Financial "worth" is one assessment, but it is the result of a different kind of "worth" -- that which is reflective of what a person brings to the human 'marketplace' of ability to perform productive work.

As I've said countless times, a person earns what he/she is WORTH in this enormous, world-wide, ever-changing 'marketplace'! You earn your economic wealth based on what you know, what you can produce, and the adaptability with which you can change using ever-evolving methods and procedures in work activity.

We Americans are all 'shades-of-grey'! Not all are born 'filthy' rich, or 'dirt' poor. Not all are born amazingly smart or hopelessly stupid. But each of us is guaranteed LEGAL EQUALITY with all other citizens -- thus, you 'make it or break it' on your own initiative, energy, and merit.

Penalizing people who strive to achieve success with ever-increasing burdens of taxation to make up for 'shortfalls' in the lives of those who do not is WRONG -- a typical and fatal flaw of all socialistic societies.

To repeat -- yes, there should be a 'social safety-net' for those who cannot (CANNOT) support themselves, but everyone else should receive what they earn -- a paradigm that has existed since the beginning of human history.

What has this got to do with the Supreme Court? Everything! You need look back no further than 2011 to see how Chief Justice, John Roberts, made a UNILATERAL decision to illegally re-write the socialistic giveaway program known as 'Obamacare', changing it from an unconstitutional "mandate" to a "tax" -- which was NOT what Congress passed or what Obama signed into law!

We must always be on guard to protect our legal foundation from 'inventive' creatures like Roberts and others who cavalierly mangle the Constitution on personal whim! Thus, we need Conservative Justices of the kind that Judge Barrett will be!

 

The two adopted kids from Haiti are Americans.

The only opinion that Roberts did that I disagree with was Obamacare...and that's because he, and he alone made the case that it was a tax, the Obama Admin said it wasn't.

 

in 2017 there was bipartisan support to be here on the Circuit Court....including a vote from 2016 Dem nominee for VP....are these dams now gonna flip flop? Will they stand against the Dems attack on the Catholic Church and her adopted children?

 

Why did she adopt kids from that neck of the woods?

 

I reckon it's time to call a medic for ya mate....

 

Yes, I selected “financial worth” to compare what you call “parasites” with “not parasites” – but the similar results you will receive comparing “what a person brings to the human 'marketplace' of ability to perform productive work”. Poorly educated, people with disabilities, old, sick and other for sure bring less than a healthy person without problems can do.

I agree – a person earns what he/she is WORTH – it is LOGICAL that people with disabilities, physical or mental or poorly educated are worth less in this enormous, world-wide, ever-changing 'marketplace'!

I agree - NOT ALL are born 'filthy' rich, or 'dirt' poor, but according to statistics 12% of Americans are born poor.
In 2020, in the United States, the poverty threshold for a single person under 65 was an annual income of US$12,760; the threshold for a family group of four, including two children, was US$26,200. It means this amount must be enough to pay for apartment rent, electricity, gas, food and clothes.
Is a single person under 65 with an annual income of US$12,760 or less are ‘dirt poor’ or only poor?
Children born to a family with 2 kids with an annual income of US$26,200 or less are ‘dirt poor’ or only poor?

The same can be say about penalizing people who have fireproof home by the burden of paying for firefighters or about penalizing people who own guns by the burden of paying for police or penalizing successful investors who prefer to invest for retirement than to pay for social security.
It can be WRONG in your eyes, but some people like me don’t mind to pay taxes to help less fortune Americans. We have elections and the majority voters will decide which way to go. In 2016 more than 3 million Americans preferred Hillary Clinton’s way than the Trump’s way.

Since the beginning of human history how much a person earns and how much received changed with time and the circumstances. The was a time when humans received less then 1% of what the earned and this paradigm constantly fluctuates.

I am not a legal expert so I am not sure if the Obamacare was legal or illegal, but I found it very weird that most Western democracies have “socialistic” universal public healthcare, while before Obama the US had none. Yes, for the wealthy and even for people with good jobs Obamacare is not a good choice. I have an excellent coverage through my work, but I know some people for whom the Obamacare is the only choice. Should we help them? I think it is our patriotic duty, but some people think waving the American flag is more important.

 

As much as I enjoy our banter and reading your commentary, I really have to draw a line now and -- to keep us both out of possible trouble -- insist that we stay on thread-topic! Discussing the in's and out's of contemporary Socialism is only going to take us farther astray....

Let's revisit the whole government 'welfare/subsidy' conundrum in a different thread sometime, and, for the duration of this thread, stay with the OP, "Trump intends to choose Amy Coney Barrett for Supreme Court".

 

Funny irony pointed out by National Review


Barrett Is ‘Hand-Picked’!
"Kamala Harris opposes Judge Barrett, in part because she is “hand-picked” by the president. This is a pretty amusing reason, not simply because every Supreme Court nominee is “hand-picked” by the president, but because Democrats apparently can’t decide whether Trump is “hand-picking” his nominees for nefarious personal reasons or delegating the process to the shadowy, “ultraconservative” Federalist Society. Presumably, we’ll find out which message tested better in the coming few weeks."

https://www.nationalreview.com/corn...tent=featured-content-trending&utm_term=first

 

Which made the whole thing unconstitutional and that MUST be addressed if we are a nation that follows it's own constitution.

 

Why not? Lots of kids in distress there. You aren't aware of the strife that has been going on in Haiti and how it was wiped out by a hurricane too? What exactly do you mean by the bolded that neck of the woods?

 

You watch the conspiracy news network too? I thought I was the only one!

 

My cult, People of Evidence and Reality, wants to know more about coney-barrett's "people of praise" cult.

The more I read about her cult, the more disturbing it becomes...

... But the group has also been portrayed by some former members, and in books, blogs and news reports as hierarchical, authoritarian and controlling, where men dominate their wives, leaders dictate members’ life choices and those who leave are shunned. ...

Steven Hassan, a psychologist who counsels people who have left fundamentalist authoritarian religious groups, said the culture within People of Praise as described by Theill and Williams, including the practice of shunning former members, creates fear so that people are dependent an obedient.

“A person who is in one of these groups has to suppress their own thoughts, feelings, desires that doesn’t align with the dogma,” Hassan said. ...

Thomas Csordas, an anthropology professor at University of California San Diego, has studied the religious movement that includes People of Praise. He said such communities are conservative, authoritarian, hierarchical and patriarchal. ...

https://apnews.com/article/new-orle...court-courts-1be61f7c3427e41326038e5cdab54839


Those patriotic Dem senators need to question coney-barrett hard about her apparent membership in this disturbing "people of praise" cult...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...611dee-01ed-11eb-b92e-029676f9ebec_story.html

 

Fox?

 

No orphans in America?

 

So you haven't read or listened to how they came about to adopt there Haitian son and in Australia and New Zealand are you so self-centered you only help other people if they live in your country?