NYT: Trump paid no income taxes in 10 of past 15 years

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  1. Eretria

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    The issue isn't how much taxes he has or hasn't paid. The issue is who has been adding to his property coffers during his time as President and is there a correlations to foreign or domestic policy decisions he's made. The $421mil debt he currently is carrying also needs clarifying. Who does he owe this debt to and could this debt also be an incentive to some of the decisions he has or will make.

    There is nothing wrong in asking these questions. In fact, the American people would be remiss to not ask these questions.
     
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    When Speaker Tip O'Neill was selling this same stick it to the rich crap back in the day, a reporter asked him to define a rich person. The question surprised him and for a few seconds he was speechless. Then he blurted out that a rich person was someone who made more than $55,000 per year. As a result of this mentality the Democrat party I had to pay Alternative Minimum Tax during the Clinton administration while earning less than $70,000 per year.

    From personal experience I know that when Democrats are talking about increasing taxes on the rich, they are really talking about increasing taxes on the middle class.

    If Harris/Biden are elected my prediction is the Government will look to confiscate retirement accounts. There is no way they can finance their programs by taxing rich people.
     
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    Lol...so trump is poor, eh?
     
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    I don't think he should, he has a right to change his mind after seeing the sleazy tactics of his enemies that never accepted his election. Like the Russia hoax, it would be a slimy investigation in search of a crime.

    I'm sure you believe that tripe.
     
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    There are also discrepancies between his taxes and financial disclosures. They can't both be right. So, he's in trouble with the IRS or OGE, the latter punishable by up to 5 years in prison.
     
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    Why do you care? More socialist envy? What is the legitimate legislative purpose for seeing his tax returns?
     
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    I call BS on your Walmart worker claim. In the case you describe. the Walmart employee would likely pay zero taxes and yet get a EITC based tax "refund."

    Via the EITC "refunds" we have made our tax system a means tested welfare system. Are you even aware that people can get tax refunds that don't pay taxes?
     
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    What are you talking about??. He changed his mind about releasing his returns while he was still running in 2016. There was no House Russian investigation when he was running in 2016 and you cant impeach someone until after he becomes the president . In short this trash-bag said he would release his returns if he ran for president but the coward changed his mind strictly on his own. And once again he is the only sniveling presidential candidate to do so since Nixon. Your logic is perverse and other worldly. Your statements show contempt for the truth all in the service of a lying .scheming president. Trump changed his mind about tax returns not because he had the right. He changed his mind on tax returns because he hardly paid any taxes at all for the last 12 years and the coward was afraid to show this to the American people.



    Trump lied publicly about releasing his returns and then claimed he couldn't do so because of auditing which was a total lie. You are regurgitating point for point Trump's words. <COMMENTS EDITED>
     
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    It was being invented in 2016, before the election when his campaign was spied on by dirty Obama cops.


    I don't care if he didn't pay taxes using legit tax strategies (see thread on Biden doing the same), he isn't an idiot like most on the left. He knew it would be distorted by people like you to make it seem like some sort of crime happened.


    You just make up the word 'lie' with no connection to reality, don't you?
     
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    Actually, Mello, I'd like to find one -- JUST ONE American president, Republican OR Democrat, who would swear a blood-oath to completely re-write the U. S. Tax Code from "appetite-to-azzhole" and throw out ALL the loopholes, shelters, exemptions, exclusions, deductions, and "carried interest"! None of them has ever done this -- not even supposedly populist, "progressive" Messiah Obama!

    Then, a 'tax-bracket' would actually MEAN something, and not be the total joke it is now.... I'm as right-wing as it gets, but the truth is that the rich among us do not (NOT) pay a 'fair-share' of taxes according to what bracket they're actually in. NONE of them do.... But, if you're a middle-class, middle-income earner, you almost certainly DO pay what your 'bracket' indicates -- or you get in a hell of a lot of trouble with the IRS!
     
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    You make no sense and have no proof only opinion because
    If that was a concern of Trump during 2016 why didn't he complain about it. Instead the cowardly Trump changed his mind and said in 2016 'he couldn't release his returns because he was being audited by the IRS" Once again patho Trump lied.

    IRS: Trump can release tax returns, regardless of audit
    Kevin McCoy, and David JacksonUSA TODAY
    usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/02/26/donald-trump-internal-revenue-service-audits/80996086/




    You don't have the heart or intestinal fortitude to provide proove anything you say. It's all flowing B.S. and Trump talking points.[/QUOTE]
     
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    You're changing the Subject so your statement is total B.S. Any investigation was totally not part of Trump's frame of reference in 2016. He claimed at one time he would release his returns but then changed his mind claiming that he couldn't release his returns for the sole reason he was being audited and that's the only reason he gave for not releasing them anything else is just B.S. In short Trump F' d the American people because he knew his returns showed how very little in taxes he paid. Here's what the IRS said about Trump being audited at the time.

    "IRS: Trump can release tax returns, regardless of audit
    Kevin McCoy, and David JacksonUSA TODAY"

    usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/02/26/donald-trump-internal-revenue-service-audits/80996086/

    All candidates since Nixon have had to explain their tax returns.. Trump is the only coward who failed to do so. . Trump is constantly being audited even now! His returns are constantly being looked at so you have no clue as to how much illegitimate crap he's trying to get a way with. But we know for sure he's paid far less percentage wise that all other presidents which is exactly why Cowardly Trump is afraid to release his returns since Nixon

    Lol so far you have failed to show any links or quotes proving anything you have said. You think that defending a lying contemptuous president is a patriotic act but it's not
     
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    Can you name me a few of these best sellers?
     
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    Bidens most recent one was “promise me, dad”
    And jills has written a couple the last 2 years.
     
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    Actually, the top 1% pay 40% of our taxes, but you do have a point, various Republicans have proposed over the years a flat tax with no loopholes, always to be shot down by Democrats and other Swamp creatures. Dems don't like the loopholes change the tax laws, don't whine that Trump, like Biden, takes advantage of them. They'd be idiots not to.
     
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    It definitely appears to be set up for tomorrow night's debate. Joe will bring up the NYT article. Trump should ask Biden when they will finish investigating his tax returns....all 180 years of them.
     
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    Was there plagiarism involved, or was that only for his speeches?
     
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    What a victim mentality, how does you knowing someone else's tax returns or not make you screwed? I never run into anyone clamoring to see his returns, other than here.

    Changing your mind isn't lying. What legislative purpose is served by for instance, the House demands for these returns? You know the same ones who did shampeachment and the Russia hoax?
     
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    Complete B.S. I've never said that Not once. Show me my quote where I said that! There isn't any How does deceptively fabricating an argument I never made prove anything. Trump does this all the time. He puts words in the mouths of his competitors that are completed false thereby showing nothing but contempt for the American people a policy that you agree. with Show me the quote where I said " knowing someone else's tax returns or not makes you screwed?' Where is it? It's not there we both knowit


    Trump is fully and legally impeached. There is no legal institution that claims he's not impeached. So get over it. You.ve presented A TOTOAL misrepresentation of what Trump did . He claimed he would release his tax returns then clamed
    he couldn't release because he was being audited which is a total F- over for the American people. The IRS said he could release despite audit.He pushed this B.S. argument for weeks. Then when shown he was a liar about this point the two bit coward decided to change his mind. Why do you think that supporting a president who lies, distorts the facts and shows contempt for the American people should be supported.
     
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  20. Bluesguy

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    He should definitely be asked who gave him a heads up.
     
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    Ahhhh the NYT confirmed he is under audit............................ But the hair on fire hysteria here is exactly why he shouldn't. The average citizen is not economic or real estate savvy enough to understand them.
     
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    And he is fully and legally acquitted by the Senate, leaving him in Trey Gowdy's words 'clothed in the mantle of innocence', at least in our system of justice as opposed to socialist kangaroo courts. An impeachment is merely an accusation, like an indictment, this from the same clowns who pushed the Russia hoax lie for years.
     
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    "Anonymous Sources"

    The usual suspect(s) on the left wing.
     
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    No and I believe, according to others here who have read the report it showed he paid several million in some years, remember the tax report that was leaked, and I would not be surprised if he had arranged it, to the Maddow show? The fact remains our two lower classes paid virtually no income tax and that is not with huge losses and loss carryovers and spending lots of money to hire people and give them jobs and spend billions into the economy.
     
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    Do YOU take all the deductions and credits to which you are entitled on your tax returns? Do you claim your mortgage deductions and game the system? And no he doesn't have to release his tax returns which are far beyond the understanding of the average citizen and especially these liberal talking heads making all sorts of claims about the cherry picked numbers.
     
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