Only deadbeats pay no taxes

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Quantum Nerd, Sep 28, 2020.

  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,543
    Likes Received:
    37,914
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But the problem on the left is not proving/providing illegalities it's getting them to stick to the FRAMEE ;)
     
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2020
  2. Denizen

    Denizen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2013
    Messages:
    10,424
    Likes Received:
    5,355
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I don't want to touch your painful zones which cover your whole persona.

    Please have some empathy for your antagonist.
     
  3. Pants

    Pants Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2018
    Messages:
    12,892
    Likes Received:
    11,311
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    I get that. But we disagree on the results. Each side of this debate has shown their 'evidence' many times over here at PF - and I only know of one person who has changed their views.
     
  4. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    42,206
    Likes Received:
    14,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    12 of those 15 years Trump showed no profits ( or losses) and yet he was able to obtain loans. That means he had to fraudulently claim income he didn't have...as Michael Cohen indicated in his Congressional testimony
     
  5. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2020
    Messages:
    7,767
    Likes Received:
    3,815
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not all operating profits are net taxable, just as people's tax returns have a gross income line and a taxable income line. Non-profits can obtain loans. That doesn't mean that they are committing fraud. Churches do it quite regularly.
     
  6. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2009
    Messages:
    38,334
    Likes Received:
    14,772
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Of course. The left sees government as a solution to problems and the right sees it as a cause of problems. It is the trade off of security vs. freedom. It goes to the heart of the political divide in America. This divide will always exist. We just need to find ways to be more gentlemanly about it like we were in decades past.
     
    Pants likes this.
  7. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    2,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You can't be an antagonist. Juvenile tactics say run and hide. And you are.

    Bring it. Answer me.
     
  8. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2016
    Messages:
    42,963
    Likes Received:
    18,934
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes!!!!!!

    $52 million paid, minus $73 million received.... You do the math.
     
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2020
  9. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    42,206
    Likes Received:
    14,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump is not a non profit organization.

    Fail
     
  10. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2020
    Messages:
    7,767
    Likes Received:
    3,815
    Trophy Points:
    113
    ButterBalls and Wildjoker5 like this.
  11. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    14,237
    Likes Received:
    4,758
    Trophy Points:
    113
    $52 million paid over the last few years. $73 million received for 2010. You figure out how they are different. And he hasn't received the $73 million yet, its still being hung up in courts because it needs congress approval for anything over $2 million.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  12. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2016
    Messages:
    42,963
    Likes Received:
    18,934
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not in your view.

    But I can hope that maybe somebody out there who is not that far gone inside the Trump... uhm... loyalist circle (not allowed to use the real word)... might stumble upon something I write and grow a patriotic bone that allows them to think twice before voting for the Freeloader in Chief.
     
  13. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,543
    Likes Received:
    37,914
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That makes no sense in context to my post/reply :roll:

    You're not sleeping with that COVID cure mask on at night are you? :shock:
     
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2020
  14. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2016
    Messages:
    42,963
    Likes Received:
    18,934
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You don't know what you're talking about. Of course he received them. Litigation is now taking place because the IRS wants him to return those $73 million, plus interest. Which would be about $100 million.
     
  15. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    14,237
    Likes Received:
    4,758
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Um, you know Obama got rich by being a politician, while Trump has lost money being a politician? How is he a freeloader when everything hes doing he could have done as a private citizen and not lost money? Its amazing to me how the democrats go into politics to become wealthy, and Republicans are wealthy before they become politicians. Biden has been in congress for 180 years (47) and never held a real job, but is wealthy off 140k a year. Bernie has NEVER worked in the private sector, had never held a job till he was 40, still a millionaire. But Trump is the "freeloader" for following the rules that life long politicians set up for him?
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  16. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,543
    Likes Received:
    37,914
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So, collateral and assets are no good when applying for a loan.. What you fail to understand is very troubling good Sir :(
     
    Wildjoker5 likes this.
  17. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    14,237
    Likes Received:
    4,758
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Alright, Ive heard 2 different parts to this story, show me your proof. And if youre right, then that would mean everything you all are complaining about is completely debunked cause then the "only paid $750" is blown WAY out of the water huh?
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  18. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,543
    Likes Received:
    37,914
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well said :applause::applause::applause:
     
  19. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    42,206
    Likes Received:
    14,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    When you apply for a loan can you claim assets on something that is heavily mortgaged?
     
  20. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,543
    Likes Received:
    37,914
    Trophy Points:
    113
    OH, and now you know all about assets now :)
     
  21. Josephwalker

    Josephwalker Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2016
    Messages:
    19,954
    Likes Received:
    10,174
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Whats obvious here is the OP has never been anything but an employee if even that. As a small business owner I paid no taxes for twenty years. I was constantly updating equipment and writing that business expense off. That's the way it works.
     
  22. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    42,206
    Likes Received:
    14,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump has found ways to lose money at every point in his life
     
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2020
  23. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    42,206
    Likes Received:
    14,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do you have a point?
     
  24. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,543
    Likes Received:
    37,914
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I already made one when I noticed you avoided the point, OR hadn't a clue about asset's and loans ;)
     
  25. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    42,206
    Likes Received:
    14,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You must have paid yourself a pretty good salary then... and paid taxes on that
     

Share This Page