Court-appointed adviser blasts 'corrupt' DOJ move to drop Flynn case

'Ran to the corner.' Nah, I have responded to just about everyone who has made a post.

If you can easily back up your claim, please do so. I do not recall ever seeing any reasoned argument from you previously. Go right ahead.

Am I not already convinced about what? Have you been reading my extensive posting history on this matter?

 

I have refuted much of your gibberish on this topic - so yes - I have read some of your posts.. as they were to me - did you forget ?

Kangaroo Clown Show - where to begin ... How about we start with the Chief Clown - Mueller - man with a historic lack of integrity and respect for the principles of justice .. Sounds like a good choice to lead the team.

Now lets take a dossier - created via Ms Clinton's war team - and use it to create a false narrative - to justify investigating Trump.

"Russiagate is born" - It was Trump who was somehow involved in hacking the DNC and the Russian FB operatives.

And that this was a "National Security" Risk - of such great magnitude - that a Special Council was Justified.

How am I doing so far ?

 

And what has any of that got to do with Sullivan/Flynn?

 

It's all just so subtle.

"With this report on the way and congressional investigators beginning to zero in on the lack of hard, verified evidence for starting the Trump investigation, current and former intelligence and Justice officials are dumping everything they can think of to save their reputations.
But it is backfiring. They started by telling the story of Alexander Downer, an Australian diplomat, as having remembered a bar conversation George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy adviser to the Trump presidential campaign. But how did the FBI know they should talk to him? That’s left out of their narrative.

Downer’s signature appears on a $25 million contribution to the Clinton Foundation. You don’t need much imagination to figure that he was close with Clinton Foundation operatives who relayed information to the State Department, who then called the FBI to complete the loop. No, it wasn’t intelligence — it was likely opposition research from the start."
THE HILL, Stopping Robert Mueller to protect us all, BY MARK PENN, 05/20/18.
http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/388549-stopping-robert-mueller-to-protect-us-all

 

Huh ? you are asking what the Mueller investigation had to do with Flynn ?

 

Yes. (We can leave the rest of your shopping list grab bag.) What direct relevance has 'Mueller' got to do with Flynn pleading guilty twice under oath in front of two separate Federal DC Judges to an offence of lying to the FBI?

 

Everything - are you having a serious disconnect ? Did you not realize that without this investigation Flynn would have never been questioned ? ... are you really this daft or just pretending ?

 

Flynn would never have been questioned if he had not made that phone call to the Rusky when he was no more than Joe Blow US Citizen. If you want to play the game of 'ifs'......

 

It's Russki. Get the terminology right. Geez...

 

What is the game of "ifs" that you are referring to - I am talking what is - not what might be .. and the fact of the matter is that this was an illegitimate investigation - hence the term witch hunt - fruit of the poisoned tree .. and this one is very poisoned -- which is not an "if" it is a fact.

you are the one playing the game of "ifs" ... so do not project your failings on to me por favor.

"If Flynn had not make a phone call" - is that the best you can stammer out in defense of your position ?

 

Same as ~ "Do you not realize that if there had not been* this investigation Flynn would never have been questioned."

 

Allow me to take a different tact here, calling Michael Flynn an 'average joe blo' citizen is totally inaccurate (but does perfectly reflect the outgoing administration's view).

Michael Flynn was the incoming national security advisor! Not some run of the mill American. It'd be shocking if the Obama incoming team didn't discuss things (they did) and I'm damn sure other transition teams did as well.

Does anyone here seriously think that had it been a President Hillary Clinton's NSA that we'd be having this discussion?

So yes, there has been political rigging of this case from the start but not from William Barr. It starts from Mr."I sent them" himself. Such a brazen admission of corruption in broad daylight because he believes (quite correctly) that he's untouchable.

 

Exactly they were to take over in two weeks, they damn sure better had been talking to ambassadors about all issues between the country, it's a very sensitive moment in time and you damn well better be prepared on day 1. It's laughable the idiots saying it shouldn't happen.

 

Is all you can muster is gibberish ? - desperate to run down rabbit holes rather than address the legal issue = "Illegitimacy of Authority"

or is that not part of your vocab ?

 

Mueller's investigation was part of a corrupt criminal enterprise created to stop Flynn from exposing Deep State crimes.

“In the spectrum of crimes involving the leaking of classified information, publicly revealing the contents of SIGINT — signals intelligence — is one of the most serious felonies. Journalists (and all other nongovernmental citizens) can be prosecuted under federal law for disclosing classified information only under the narrowest circumstances; reflecting how serious SIGINT is considered to be, one of those circumstances includes leaking the contents of intercepted communications, as defined this way by 18 § 798 of the U.S. Code:

Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates … or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes … any classified information … obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government … shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.”
THE INTERCEPT, The Leakers Who Exposed Gen. Flynn’s Lie Committed Serious — and Wholly Justified — Felonies, By, Glenn Greenwald, February 14 2017.
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/14...mitted-serious-and-wholly-justified-felonies/

 

For those keeping track, Sullivan's first hearing on this matter is in 5 minutes.. I doubt we'll hear much about it until later in the week.

Wouldn't mind being a fly on that wall, I don't mind telling you..

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...ey-hearing-in-doj-effort-to-dismiss-the-case/

 

Flynn got in trouble because he was picked up talking to the Ruskies. The same would have happened to you had you called Kislyak.

 

I agree... Flynn was certainly on the FBI/DOJ radar due to Crossfire Hurricane, but he had managed to keep his skirts clean (perhaps literally if he hung about with Eric Trump) until they heard the Kislyak calls, which reignited their interest.

Also, from this article, seems the DOJ or Flynn's lawyers (there's really no separation any more) may have committed a little fraud themselves

SNIP
In another of the filings of evidence last week, the Justice Department or Michael Flynn's defense team may have inserted a misleading date on a handwritten note of former FBI agent Peter Strzok, who had interviewed Flynn, a lawyer for Strzok told Sullivan on Monday, according to the court record.

Strzok's lawyer, Aitan Goelman, flagged "handwritten notations (of dates) that Mr. Strzok did not write" on evidence Flynn sent to court recently after his team received it from the Justice Department related to his case. The changes -- which add two dates in handwriting to the original Strzok notes -- potentially would be a major breach of protocol if the change was intended to mislead the court.
ENDSNIP

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/29/politics/flynn-court-sullivan-doj/index.html

Flynn doesn't walk here... either Sullivan imposes a sentence on the Kislyak charges or gets him for perjury in his withdraw of plea.

Pick your poison...

 

Actually the evidence shows he was not guilty of anything. Even the FBI reported that he had told them the truth. He allocuted in order to protect his son from prosecution. Prosecutors are as political as anyone and more political than most. There is no reason to be proud of the whole mess but it was a corrupt political mess.

 

It was perfectly appropriate for the incoming DNI to call the Russian Ambassador. He was picked up because he was associated with Trump.

 

Didn't say it was inappropriate. Merely that they would have talked to anyone the talked to the Ruskie.
However; I think he did talk down sanctions didn't he?

 

Oh, didn't you get the memo on that?? Seems the latest talking point on that is the diplomat expulsions are no longer considered part of the "sanctions". The "sanctions" were the money penalties, while the diplomat situation falls under...... who the hell knows?

SNIP
The administration described Russia's involvement as "Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities" and sanctioned four Russian individuals and five Russian entities for what it said was election interference. The administration also ordered 35 Russian diplomats to leave the country and two Russian compounds are being closed.
ENDSNIP

https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/29/politics/russia-sanctions-announced-by-white-house/index.html

See, even Fake News CNN doesn't call the diplomatic penalties sanctions.

Funny how even Flynn's new legal team didn't make that claim, but some geniuses at PF.com figured it all out on their own...

 

I have no idea. Sorry.

 

The declassified documents show that Flynn discussed in detail Russia's response to the Obama administration's sanctions, despite public denials at the time from senior Trump administration officials. Flynn later lied about discussing sanctions to the FBI, leading to his guilty plea secured by former special counsel Robert Mueller's team in 2017, which Attorney General William Barr moved to dismiss earlier this month.
The call summaries and transcripts show Flynn asked then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak to "reciprocate moderately" in response to the sanctions, Flynn said on a December 29, 2016, call.
"Let's keep this at even-kill (sic) level; then when we come in, we will have a better conversation where we are going to go regarding our relationship," Flynn says, according to the documents.
In a follow-up call two days later, Kislyak told Flynn that Russia's response -- in which Russia did not escalate against the US -- was influenced by their earlier conversation.

Transcript here.