LIVE: First 2020 Presidential Debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden

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  1. FatBack

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    You must have "missed" the Democrat "leaders" who would not allow Federal help with putting down the riots.
     
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    He didn’t say no to the travel ban.
    Trump did nothing once the virus arrived in the country. Look at the death rates and curves compared with other large industrial countries. America fared worst.
    Thanks to Dirty Donny Bonespurs.
     
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    That's not what Cuomo said:

    https://www.newsweek.com/new-york-g...ing-very-quickly-coronavirus-outbreak-1492570
     
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    Putting down, that’s never been how it was handled before. Biden said what had to be done, but trump is incapable of leading
     
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    He literally said "proud boys stand back, stand by"

    The proud boys are now selling t-shirts using that quote as a slogan
     
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    Again: "the president responded very quickly" - Cuomo, an elected democrat

    He's at least occasionally intellectually honest.
     
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    British Columbia (5.1 people), Canada, where I'm sitting at the moment instead Oregon. If you take BC figures and multiply times 66, you scale them up to our 331m people.

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    74 new cases x 66 = 4,884
    233 deaths x 66 = 15,378
    69 in hospital x 66 = 4,554

    We have 200,000+ dead when we could have had 15,378.

    My wife and I chose BC because its relatively safe here. BTW, they shut down some businesses for a time--many were still open--but there never was a stay-at-home order. Schools, restaurants, bars, theaters ... all open. I want the same or better for this country.

    Trump failed to deliver.
     
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    Oh really? How else does on put down violent riots? Sing kumbuya and attempt to reason with them"? How were the Rodney King riots halted?
     
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    It doesn't mean what the left wants it to mean. The Proud Boys, bongaloo. It's all a diversion from radical left violence.
     
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    One would think Wallace would be aware of that.
     
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    So one specific comment by Cuomo on one specific day is enough? I guess all those dead Americans and their families should thank trump for letting America slide to 11th worst in the world?

    Forget about what Cuomo said. How can you claim that trump did a great job when the death rate is so bad?
     
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    Here's a better question: Democrats wanted to shutdown, they shut it down. They wanted the emergency declaration, they got it. They wanted Trump to crack the whip with the defense authorization act and he did.

    How can Democrats blame Trump for doing the things he wanted them to do? Sure, we now know he should've acted much more quickly and had been candid, but even if he were Democrats haven't helped in the fight against the coronavirus.
     
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    I have just finished watching a replay of the whole thing. I have not read even one post in this Thread. So......

    1. What a farce! What a disaster! That was not a debate!!! That was two kindergarten kids arguing over a Tonka toy. Total fiasco. Really Team USA....is that the best you can do?

    2. Wallace was pathetic and had zero control, especially over one participant. I reckon there is no point having any further debates unless both participants are put into an interruption room where they can hear what the other guy is saying but cannot say a bloody thing, or be seen even, until their mic is turned on.

    3. On substance. Nothing new except on thing stuck out. This:

    On getting a vaccine for the nasty ~ Trump said several times, referring to pharma, that 'they can go faster.' So.......ummmmmm........why aren't they?
     
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    Trump is at fault for putting a cap on the recovery by letting the virus amok. People over 60 won't travel, dine out, or spend a lot of money.

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    The economy will be in real trouble if we don't get the virus under better control.
     
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    All of those killings by cops are the result of the ‘94 crime bill. I’m happy that Trump kept hammering points like that home and ignoring Biden’s cheerleader Wallace.
     
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    What does it mean, and why did he say proud boys if he was actually referring to poll workers
     
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    I note that I misread your point and responded that Wallace gave Trump more time.

    I assume that you meant Wallace's questions? Nobody else mentioned this so I'd be interested if you can clarify. ( I thought they were bread and butter questions myself).
     
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    It's certainly enough to refute your claim that "Trump did nothing once the virus arrived in the country." Admit you were wrong and we can move on.
     
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    He condemned it. I think attaching the Antifa/BLM label to everything is (until proven otherwise) inaccurate.
     
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    Once again I'll note how heartening (and telling) it is to see leftists asking that future debates be avoided.
     
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    Because President Trump can’t make the private sector “go faster”, to which Trump was actually alluding to. Now you can explain to us how the private sector Big Pharma not “going faster” is all the fault of President Trump.
     
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    Not in Florida, Texas, Georgia, and many other Republican states.
    He barely used it. We should have effective PPE we can use to cut transmission. We don't.
    They passed important legislation. What do you want?
     
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    Was Trump putting COVID-19 patients into nursing homes with weak old people?
     
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