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Black Chairman of Proud Boys Speaks Out after Liars Joe Biden and Chris Wallace Call Them White Supr

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  1. Sahba*

    Sahba* Well-Known Member

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    Sahba*, Oct 1, 2020
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    Yeah... I just like the brute muscle
     
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    So long as you aren't actively assaulting me I'll have a conversation with you. That goes for communists, fascists, and everything in between.

    I am a big boy. I wear big boy pants. Words cannot hurt me.
     
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    Sahba* Well-Known Member

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    See we have something in common, lol... & my parents were worried about me finding 'common ground' with my peers... :)
     
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    It's a hate group.

    So far they have limited their violence to street fighting against protesters. But if you know the history of such groups, they typically escalate. Tim McVeigh didn't start out as the mad bomber of the OK City Bombing. He just hung out with Right wing extremists, and then 168 people died, including 19 mostly very young children.

    That's already started, they plan on harassing voters on election day in minority neighborhoods. Expect violence.
     
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    Says you... how about you opine on some of this ANTIFA & BLM violence... or is it not "PC" to dain to insinuate that they might be NOT be as pure as the wind driven snow....

    I'm sure you can "cherry pick" some isolated sordid quip from something the "Proud Boys" have been involved with - but to my understanding they are not nearly about the same thing... (quite the opposite actually)
     
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    This historic resurgence of racism is threatening the gains civil rights have made. Then there is Trump fanning the racist fires. Then there are groups like the Proud Boys, coming from around the country, trying to ramp up the violence even more. (Trying to start a race war is one of the defining traits of White extremism, and the Proud Boys are part of that)

    It's complicated.

    So after you learn how to have a rational discussion on the topic, sure.
     
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    Can we put your rejoinder in the dictionary - under the term "gaslighting"... re. the Proud Boys :)
     
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    FYI it was Trump that called them white supremacists during the debate, not Biden and Wallace.
     
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    So your sure about that... the 'veracity' & all...

    ROTFL, Say it often enough & loud enough & some may actually believe you. Would you be so kind as to post a clip of what you claim the President said...
     
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    There's only one hate group in the US. It's the Democratic Party. They have several chapters like ANTIFA Terrorists and the collection of radical white college brainwashed women who have appropriated the BLM moniker.

    These violent thugs have been terrorizing Americans since we took away their slaves. They engaged in lynchings; enforced Jim Crow laws; they consulted with Nazis in framing the Nuremberg laws and worked with Hitler to teach him how to persecute Jews in Germany the same way Democrats persecuted Blacks in the US. Nazi Germany's concentration camps were modeled after Democrat Plantations.

    Hitler was envious of the mass murder of blacks facilitated by Margaret Sanger and forced sterilization of blacks and others. "Nazi propaganda defended Germany's forced sterilization program by citing the U.S. as an ally in the eugenic movement."
    https://www.thoughtco.com/forced-sterilization-in-united-states-721308
    It took WWII and airing of the atrocities in Germany to end the Democrat sterilization movement in the US.

    Racism wasn't the only thing Democrats had in common with Hitler. Like Democrats, Hitler was a fascist and rabid environmentalist, two characteristics that go hand in hand.

    More recently, Democrat haters destroyed monuments celebrating the Emancipation of slaves and the statue of Frederick Douglass while preserving the statue of White Supremacist Stephen Douglas in Chicago and the Statue of Exalted Cleagle Robert Byrd in the Capital Bldg.
     
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    I'm interested in fixing problems, not filling the streets with blood.
     
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    Rayguns.

    As long as you're writing bad fiction, could you add some rayguns?
     
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    So you do that by causing partisan division on forums....? Wow, fascinating "strategy". Talk about "bad fiction".
     
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    Had to go back to check.
    Wallace didn't but Trump and Biden did.
     
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    This place is a tempest in a cracked teapot.. sound and fury, signifying nothing.

    Racists never stop, since 1989 we have been re-segregating. We're in the middle of a historic surge of racism. The division comes from those seeking to divide. Which would be those trying to reduce Blacks back to 3rd class status.

    Words, they have meaning...
     
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    Take a snippet of truth an run with it... distort it even... bloviate & call it a post, lol... (there is a reason why I have so many 'warning points' & I don't intend to accrue any more over this...)
     
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    It was in reference to the Charlottesville lie that keeps being repeated beside being debunked several times, including here:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...neo-nazis_fine_people_heres_proof_139815.html

    It was disgusting that a moderator would engage in deception in framing a debate question, but Wallace kicked it off that way and continued on the same path.

    The attempt to frame the Democrat ANTIFA and BLM violence as right wing is as despicable as it is predictable.

    The Biden campaign has received a demand from Kyl Rittenhouse's atty to retract his statement about Kyl being a White Supremacist as it was an attempt to prejudice the jury pool. Kyl was not too bright to take it upon himself to protect Kenosha businesses from rioting Democrats who then threatened him, but that doesn't make him a White Supremacist.
     
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    We're in the middle of a slanderous story manufactured by Democrats to destroy the Trump administration by stirring up riots and blaming them on the myth of racism on Trump's part. It not only involves the Democrat terrorists, but funding of campaigns of AG's and prosecutors by Soros so they will look the other way. Blue cities and states have blown themselves up on purpose.

    Soros isn't the only funding source. China wants their US back, so they were delighted when Biden asked Xi to help him win the election.
     
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    What is their platform?
     
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    Kinda like when Biden said he did not want his kids to grow up in a racial jungle?
     
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    What's your evidence for this? Maybe they re hanging out to keep minority voters from being harassed by Antifa scum bags, after all black neighborhoods is where Antifa has been burning and looting.
     
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    When all you need is an excuse, any excuse will do!
     
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    Seemingly the only "excuse" required here is an "excuse" for you to recant your assertions... Perhaps an "excuse" to depart from an illegitimately founded besmirchment... An "excuse" to extricate yourself from justifiable examination of ideology by us PF members... Yehh - an "excuse" is what would be advisable, lol :) imho O-course
     
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    The ENTIRE position of the social justice left is predicated upon white privilege, which is the fundamental driving factor behind the idea of white fragility and critical race theory. The same White Fragility book which is is a NYT Best Seller and on nearly EVERY reading list by liberal talking heads and is MANDATORY reading for “black allies” in groups such as BLM, Antifa and all of the social justice workshops put on by leftists.

    White Fragility is INHERENTLY racist. The entire book, and as such concept, of white fragility is predicated upon the idea that whites are either intellectually inferior or morally inferior. White Fragility asserts that whites... ALL whites are born into a system of privilege and ALL of us reap the rewards of that system and BECAUSE we don’t want to lose that position, we fight consciously or subconsciously to sustain it.

    The paramount claim being (with zero actual evidence mind you) is that ALL whites are either Morally deficient because you know you’re racist and you don’t care to change it. Or you are intellectually deficient because you think you’re not racist when in actuality you are and you’re either too stupid or too evil to admit it.

    So spare me the crap about the right fomenting racism and hatred.
     
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