Proud Boys, Black Lives Matter leaders hold joint conference: We 'denounce White supremacy'

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  1. LogNDog

    LogNDog Well-Known Member

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    I am not a Proud Boy so I really don't know what they think. Don't care what they think about BLM either. I know the concept of individual thinking might be hard to conceive for some liberals however.
     
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    LogNDog Well-Known Member

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    Please don't tell me what I think. You missed the point as proven by your post. Thad isn't latino and he is the black man referred to in the article. You should do your due diligence when reading an article rather than skimming it and then responding with a post that doesn't really make any ****ing sense.

    Here is the video of Thad.

    https://twitter.com/brian_schnee/status/1311488168026284032

    Thad is the one in the middle.
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    Wait, there is another video with a black member of the Proud Boys:

     
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    LogNDog Well-Known Member

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    It's all part of the left's "Freedom of Speech repression" program. It's directly linked to the "repression of tolerance" policy that most of the left has adopted.

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    LogNDog Well-Known Member

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    What don't you trust about what "Thad" said? Be specific.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and so if you also take my next post, I believe this BLM saying the proud boys are not white nationalist is not genuine. If BLM thought so, it would be on their site.
     
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    "for the Fascist, everything is in the State, and nothing human or spiritual exists, much less has value, outside the State." Benito Mussolini
    This is fascism. All the rest of the babbling about it is so much bovine excrement. Fascism makes the state the center of all. It would be great if we could let words mean what they were meant to. Of course, words control though, so those who seek to control thought seek to control our definitions.
     
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    White nationalists are simply nationalists that are white. This group of Proud Boys are "nationalists of color" or "colored nationalists", which ever suits their taste. Not so sure what is wrong with being a nationalist of any color. It's kind of racist to try to pigeon hole "nationalists" to one race.
     
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    That is a typical meme of white nationalists to try and thow people off the scent. It is a well known term which they knew. The Proud boys were using it themselves.

    Ethnic Nationalism has a history of being very dangerous due to them believing they are better/more important than others and wanting to get rid of those who are not part of their chosen group. I hear American Jews are getting somewhat concerned.

    A moment of reckoning for American Jewish leaders
     
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    First let me apologize, you were not the one that insulted Americans. That was Yulee.

    You can certainly condemn those that keep the culture going. You can condemn white nationalists for wanting a culture based on the color of their skin. That is the culture that they want. If a Muslim condones the things I listed previously and does nothing to change that culture then they can be condemned also. So no, not all Muslims are to be blamed for ISIS. The ones that condone what they do certainly can be. Along with any other bad cultural thing that they condone. Like the things I listed previously.


    No, not all arguments are an appeal to emotion. Arguments based on facts have no need for emotion.

    As for your Nolo explanation...even that had an act tied to the assault. The key word being "imminent threat". Even in the example that was given they showed that the guy was pulling back his fist to hit the other person. IE: An Act. Speech by itself is not assault. It requires an act.
     
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    By your use of the word "ultraconservative" you are talking about the extreme's. Such ultraconservatives would be labeled white supremacists, nazi's etc etc. Like I said previously, the vast majority of people in the US have no problem with legal immigration.

    Put simply: Fascists wish to deny peoples Rights by force.
     
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    That's authoritarianism. Fascism goes further.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=wha...me.1.69i57j69i59j0l6&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    It can't really be "put simply". The definition of Fascism actually a somewhat involved thing and oversimplifying it can and does lead to some very pernicious misconceptions
     
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    I'll accept that argument but there are certain important practical limitations you must put on to "Open Carry". "Open Carry" to me means you can carry a rifle in what I think is called the 'field slung' position or you can openly carry a pistol it's holster. Common sense says that you cannot enter any situation with a rifle at 'ready' or a pistol at hand and not be seen as attacking the place, but a lot of gun advocates, like this guy who killed the people, seem to want to do just that.

    But why are you making the argument in the first place? It's an emotional reason or you'd not be making it and that emotion is the important thing, the fact is just backing.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

    Finally, somebody gets it right

    Fascism is more than just "anything I don't like"
     
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    :roflol:

    Oh? Ok:

    “There’s not too many racists and white supremacists that actually admit to being white supremacists,” Nero told CBS news correspondent Jeff Pegues.
    Asked if he thinks Mr. Trump is “speaking their language,” Nero said, “Absolutely. It’s on their website. They’re emboldened by it.”
    “They feel like they are the guardians to make America great again,” he added.
    According to the FBI, violence from white supremacist groups is the single biggest threat to national security, as the president’s own FBI director testified last month.

    “Racially motivated violent extremists over recent years have been responsible for the most lethal activity in the U.S.,” director Christopher Wray said.


    https://www.wbtv.com/2020/10/04/pro...president-trumps-language-former-member-says/
     
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    You don't "actually admit to being white supremacist" either, but do you think we ought to insist on a bit more evidence than that before labeling you one?
     
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    Thad is the most appropriate name I can imagine haha.
     
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    here you go
    https://atlantablackstar.com/2018/1...onwhite-men-joining-white-supremacist-groups/
     
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    So this particular local BLM chapter isn’t actually affiliated with the official state BLM chapter?

    I don’t know if the Proud Boys are racist or not, but if the article is accurate, it kind of sounds like they just threw a BLM shirt on some black lady and got her to say that.

    It’s probably legit, though.
     
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    As is the liar Biden who brought up their name during the debate in that context.
     
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    Well, perhaps they should sue Biden for libel... seems to be all the rage in the white nationalist/militia ilk these days.

    Snowflakes should go for it, IMHO...
     
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    No just shine the truth on his lies.
     
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    A system of government that attempts to impose a centrally commanded value at the expense of individual liberty?

    Huh.

    Where have I heard that plan before?
     
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