Covid 19 Deaths: Pennsylvania — 8227, Sweden — 5895, Cuba — 118

This comparison teaches how different systems were prepared for & able to contain Covid-19, or not. Think about it.

Populations:

Pennsylvania — 12,820,900

Sweden — 10,099,265

Cuba — 11,326,616

COVID-19 deaths:

Pennsylvania — 8,227

Sweden — 5,895

Cuba — 118

Research by Steven Halpern

 

where can i find those numbers? Also, how dare you compare a country that did not lock down or mask up? You must kneel at the altar of the mask

Locking down was vital to demonstrate just how willing people are to toss aside their liberty when a perfectly executed propaganda blitz is undertaken

 

@resisting arrest, What/where is the source for this data?

 

There is only one comparison;

Taiwan versus the rest of the world

Taiwan

Population; 23,8 million
Population Density; 1,684 per sq mi
Confirmed cases; 523
Deaths; 7

Covid19 General Alert; Dec 31st, 2020

Note: Within two weeks of their CDC's General Alert, and prior to their first confirmed case;

a. Retailed store masks were disappearing faster than Monika Lewinsky's lip gloss.
b. In an effort to meet a high demand, and keep the price low, they've stopped exporting masks, and converted several factories to making masks and other protective gear.
c. Taiwan's military personnel were re-assigned to said converted factories.

Taiwan's "let's keep working strategy;

Keep working
Keep wearing masks
Keep your distance

Note; Taiwan's officials have never mandated their citizens to wear masks, mainly a collective and individual effort to prevent/minimize the spread of Covid19.

Note: Taiwan's social distancing measures were relaxed on June 7th, two weeks after U.S. Memorial long, and at ZERO new cases.

Note; There were no lockdowns, only restrictions and limitations.

 

Taiwan is heavily subsidized by the U.S. treasury. Don't you know that? Cuba is under siege by Amerikan imperialism. Cuba is experiencing a major blockade/embargo by AmeriKKKan imperialism.

 

Steven Halpern. Google it.

 

Pennsylvania has had an enormous amount more cases found than Sweden.

Pennsylvania 171,550,

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Sweden 97,532

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

If my memory serves me well the US increased sanctions of did some other agressive activity to Cuba at the beginning of the Pandemic.

 

Better to do per capita. Not sure it will be much different in terms of the divide, but we should expect more deaths/more infections in higher populations.

 

That is true. You will notice from the OP that they all have very similar populations.

 

Ah, apologies, good callout. I had totally missed that.

 

COVID-19 in Philly: Survey shows Blacks less likely to practice social distancing

Pennsylvania population 12.8 million
Sweden population 10.23 million


Cuba is more isolated, and the people do not travel as much.

Only a few decades ago, Cuba was completely cut off from trade and tourism with the US.


Only about half (maybe slightly less) of the Covid deaths in Pennsylvania were White people. (source here)
The disparity in infection rates is probably greater than that, because it is well known a larger percentage of the elderly population are White.
(That is, since Whites as a group would already be more likely to die from the virus due to their age, then if half the people dying are minorities, then the infection rate for minorities must be even higher than that)

We can look at the related statistics in another state
More than 80% of coronavirus patients in Georgia are African American

 

Not sure that would be the reason. Lots of countries in Asia generally have plenty of people visiting. They did what they needed to do as soon as they found out about it, they stopped visitors arriving to halt the virus. Cuba did the same.

They also have a highly developed medical system and have been helping other countries in need for a long time.

https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-response-why-cuba-is-such-an-interesting-case-135749

They apparently developed a new drug with China. This is March

https://www.newsweek.com/cuba-drug-fight-coronavirus-us-sanctions-1493872

They apparently have the highest ratio of doctors to population in the world. Medicine appears to be their speciality where they have the expertise and of course when they do develop drugs they give them freely to their people, and often others as well.

I know at the beginning there was this big question who would do best, communist countries or 'free' countries. I would have to say that in this instance with the demand from Libertarians not to wear masks for communal safety and so on, 'freedom' and indeed money has not worked to the advantage of the people of the US.

 

The big one for me is Taiwan. They have far more travel between themselves and China . . . who doesn't acknowledge them as another country in the first place. They didn't/couldn't cut off that travel. They still did far better than us on containing the virus.

 

You are right. Still only 59 deaths

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

However I think they did shut off the travel

Taiwan led the world in closing down for Covid-19, now it wants to do the same with opening back up

Most of the countries around China started closing down right away and testing and contact tracing and giving free medical help. They had had to deal with similar before so knew how to do it. I think free medical help during a pandemic ought to be a right. It's the only way you can even be sure people will go for help if they need it rather than carry on giving it to others.

I do though still think Cuba has been impressive in the way she has dealt with it.

 

Swden is seeing a rise in cases. +569 yesterday.

 

From what I've seen, having a "system" ready for Covid had little to do with Covid cases. For example there are 4 factors at play in in varying degrees in the 4 countries discussed above and in OP:

1. Culture
2. History
3. Geography
4. Political structure

They far outweigh any governments' preparedness level imo.

 

Taiwan has single payer healthcare, don't you know that???

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hea...ystem in,the disbursement of healthcare funds.

 

Considering the unreliability and many inaccuracies of the PCR test, is it really logical to place great faith in the number of cases?