How come republicans can't see that Trump is a fascist wannabe?

With respect because I do agree Republicans gave in and let Trump hijack their party-I would argue that has nothing to do with conservatism and everything to do with the nature of power ands human behaviour to allow itself to be bullied and led by an Alpha male because of our homo sapiens primal back behaviour not our political ideologies.

I would argue in the US and every country we have politicians of every ideological persuasion who have become overly authoritarian and that Liberalism is in theory more willing to use government to intervene than Conservatism. . I would further ague Trump is not a conservative. Nothing in his ideology comes remotely close to conservatism. He is what is best called a demagogue, someone who takes whatever issue is in the air, and uses it to incite fear to mobilize a base of followers that believe he will save them from that fear.

I would argue Liberal and Conservative are now used to connotate leftist and rightist. However Liberalism is actually more conducive to right wing governments not conservatism. Conservatism taken to its actual conclusion is anti government not pro government. Bottom line is extremists on either side are not liberal or conservative, they both become one and the same worshipping the power of someone they agree with.

I would argue sadly both left and right are just as too quick to support authority I would argue as homo sapiens and being pack animals, we all tend to allow ourselves to be led by an Alpha reflecting our primal patterns of pack behaviour.

We have not evolved that much. .

 

Sadly too many supporters of the wannabe Fascist-in-Chief PROJECT their own issues onto others.

 

Freedom of expression INCLUDES the right to call out those that hold opinions that are 100% opposed to what America stands for!

The RISK to our current democracy is those that hold these FASCIST positions that are intent upon DESTROYING our democracy.

The GREATEST danger is NOT opposing those that support UNAMERICAN fascism that is intent upon destroying our democracy.

Only ONE SIDE is in danger of IMPOSING a DICTATORSHIP on America and it is NOT coming from the left.

 

Learn what Fascism mean before trying to use adult big words. And if you’re going to use that word against someone at least try to site real world examples, and not just fictional hypotheticals.

 

How come most Americans cannot see that the US has been fascist since before Trump came into office?

Answer: because they are very well indoctrinated by mainstream corporate media. After all, it is the corporations that benefit most from fascism.

 

Thank you for just PROVING my point about PROJECTING given that you have FAILED to CITE any "real world examples" in your own posts!

 

And yet it is the Dem House that has introduced legislation to curb the power of the Presidency.

And that would affect a new DEM President

 

Uuum. I’m not accusing anyone of fascism. It’s up to the accuser to defend their position. Who’s paying you to post? Seriously?

Please list examples of Trump being a fascist or go away. Thanks.

 

Having his AG use the power of the DOJ to "investigate" his opponent just weeks before an election...for one

 

Trump administration Fascist ? All check out !!!




Fourteen Points of Fascism

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.


2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of \u201cneed.\u201d The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.


3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause

The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.


4. Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.


5. Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.


6. Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes the media are directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media are indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.


7. Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.


8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.


9. Corporate Power is Protected

The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.


10. Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.


11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts

Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free _expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.


12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment

Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.


14. Fraudulent Elections

Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.



`Fascism Anyone?,' by Dr. Lawrence Britt, a political scientist, identifies social and political agendas common to fascist regimes. His comparisons of Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Suharto, and Pinochet yielded this list of 14 `identifying characteristics' of fascism. (The following article is from Free Inquiry magazine, Volume 23, Number 2. Read it at http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm)

 

For the UMPTEENTH time here they are AGAIN!

https://www.frontpagelive.com/2020/07/22/trump-fascism/

Now WHERE is your DEFENSE of this BOGUS allegation of YOURS:

What CREDIBLE evidence do you have to SUPPORT your utterly BOGUS allegation above?

 

Webster definitions from the 80's illustrate that fascism has been alive and well in the US long before Trump took office.

AUMF and perpetual war brought under fraud demonstrate how fascism reigns here.

 

Reread my title. I didn't call him a 'fascist', I called him a 'fascist wannabe'. The distinction is important.

So, when he talks about how people 'should be in jail' that is consistent with 'fascist wannabe'

The left isn't doing anything to jail Trump. SDNY, a criminal justice organization, a NON partisan organization, investigates crimes and puts criminals in jail. If Trump is a criminal, he will get what he deserves, politics will have NOTHING to do with it. Of course, cynics will say other wise, but cynicism is not a virtue.

IF he is a criminal. IF. With fascism, there is no IF..

Trump is talking about jailing his opponents WITHOUT evidence, that is how DICTATORS TALK.

That is consistent with 'fascist wannabe'.

NO, it's not the left who is fascist, nor is it the right (but they are, by enabling Trump) it is Trump who WANTS to be a dictator, because 'if it walks like a duck....."

etc

 

And with Trump they were given a platform, a go ahead, a friend, an opening...

 

Yes . . . and in fact that was a tactic that the teachings of Saul Alinsky drummed into the heads of both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in their respective youths. Eventually youngish Barack went on to teach fellow Community Organizers Saul Alinsky's techniques for radicals.

 

There is plenty evidence, although your bias may have convinced you that it is insufficient. Trump always talks, strong. He is like this with other nations. He talks strong but then you see him pull troops out of other countries and hasn't got into any wars. Unlike Obama who talked soft but then got us in several wars.

Its better to keep the threat alive as a warning and to notify the public of what's going on so that we can vote out the criminals. You can try to spin this,but calling Trump a 'wannabe tyrant' for speaking truth isn't going to cover up what's been done.

 

And Fascist Nancy Pelosi tried to assassinate a political rival in a election year by impeachment and now wants to use the 25th amendment so the people don't get to decide.

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You OBVIOUSLY do NOT know the meaning of the term "assassinate"!

 

Maybe because he is not a fascist wanna be.

Your post is contradictory.

You argue fascism does not arrive at once but sneaks up on stages.

Then you claim what Trump is doing is unprecedented

If unprecedented it is not fascism because fascism has many precedents.

He may well ignorant or an was but he is no fascist.

Yes you have TDS

 

That is an extremely well thought out and stated post. I do not know how I have missed your posts in this forum before, but I will most absolutely have to start following them.

 

Must everyone teach you on here?




assassination

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as·sas·si·nate
(ə-săs′ə-nāt′)
tr.v. as·sas·si·nat·ed, as·sas·si·nat·ing, as·sas·si·nates
1. To murder (a prominent person) by surprise attack, as for political reasons.
2. To destroy or injure treacherously: assassinate a rival's character

 

Yes, that word can indicate two things that's why one must indicate what one is referring to.

 

When I said political assassination doesn't give anyone a hint?

 

How come republicans can't see that Trump is a fascist wannabe?

He isn't fascist in any way. He is tough boss, a braggart, rude and aggressive. He isn't a fascist and he does good things for the country. You don't need to like him to appreciate what he has done. I don't.

 

Do you realize how fascist your rant is? You appear to want to silence those that to not conform to YOUR beliefs by "calling them out". You claim that people that do not conform to your beliefs are "a danger" and are "destroying our democracy" (when we do not even have a democracy).

I agree that the left is not trying to impose a dictatorship, but neither is the right.

However, it is the left that:

1. Attempts to silent opposing opinions.
2. Use hyperbole and rhetoric to assassinate the character of their opponent.
3. That want the populous unarmed.
4. That seem to believe that accusations are more powerful than evidence....even when there is no substance to the accusations.
5. That declare certain words are not allowed to be said in public....or in private.
6. That want to dictate what one can do in their own house or on their own property.
7. That believes in Government controlled health insurance (but falsely represent it as healthcare).
8. That believe in Government paid higher education from the backs of working people without any higher education.
9. That condones the destruction of cities by a few as a means to better spread a false narrative.
10. That supports the scaling back and/or even removal of Capitalism.
11. That believe in the distribution of wealth.
12. That believe that a person should not have to work if they do not want to.
13. That do everything is their power to remove an elected official BEFORE they even take office.

If this is YOUR America, I do not want it.