Court Reinstates Criminal Conviction of Hunter Biden’s Business Partner

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it would be like a business associate of Eric Trump being arrested for something Eric played no part in...
     
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    I guess you can say after party....he ran out of the Dem Party pretty quickly....who can blame him with the likes of Clinton, Weinstein and Jeffrey
     
  3. Andrew Jackson

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    Yup.

    Birds of a Feather...

    Makes you wonder...

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  4. struth

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    Trump was right to hold on to his daughter and pull her away from the Dem Donor....and then flee the party of Weinstein and Jeffrey.....only real perverts would remain in that party given what we know now
     
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    That was six years ago.

    I'm not denying that Hunter Biden knew the guy, but Hunter was not involved in any of this.
     
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    The Biden family? I'll agree that the walls may be closing in on Hunter Biden, someone I consider to be a piece of s.... and a despicable human being; not only accepting to cash in based on his last name rather than his (non-existing) qualifications, but also a drug addict and an alimony dodger.

    But I don't see how this reflects on Joe Biden and Jill Biden and other offspring (including the outstanding, unfortunately prematurely deceased Beau Biden, may God bless his soul), beyond at most blaming the couple for bad parenting (which the outstanding Beau Biden disproves; all families have bad apples).

    Remember, the candidate is one Joseph Robinette Biden Jr., not one Hunter Biden.

    By the way, his father had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with piece of s.... Hunter Biden accepting a job from Burisma. Reports are that when Joe Biden learned about it after the fact (his son never mentioned it to him before the fact) he was very angry and annoyed. The conspiracy theory that Joe got this job for his son is completely bogus. By the way #2, what conspiracy theorists won't tell you is that Hunter Biden was hired by Burisma two freaking years AFTER the prosecutorial probe of Burisma had ended with the company pleading guilty, therefore there was nothing else left to prosecute and even if Hunter's job had been contemporaneous, it would still be unrelated to Biden's actions implementing what his boss Obama told him to do to foster American foreign policy. Let alone, two years out of sync, LOL.
     
  7. quiller

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    A respectable defense even if I don't believe a word. ;) I did like paragraph 1. Kudos.
     
  8. Professor Peabody

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    Yet! Archer was up to his neck with Hunter in business dealings. Would he really hesitate to roll over on the Biden's to stay out of jail? Guess we'll find out.
     
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    Thanks, but why don't you believe a word? Even a Republican committee reached the same conclusion. Nothing was ever proved against Joe Biden in this incident because there is nothing to prove against him. Sure, the son is a PoS but even what the son did is not illegal. He accepted a job for which he was not qualified. That is unethical. Not illegal. Anyway, you don't believe in it because you were bombarded with fabricated conspiracy theories that are repeated enough to sound true. But the reality happened the way I told you. If Joe Biden had any responsibility on this, and had demonstrably favored Burisma in some sort of insider deal and illicit favors, it would have been all over the news and the criminal courts. Pray tell, what are the occasions in which you suppose that the US federal government favored Burisma in deals or favors while Biden's son was a member of their Board? There wasn't anything, multiple investigations from both sides showed (the US side and the Ukrainian side).

    Burisma thought that by hiring Hunter Biden they'd get some insider access to the US government and some favors. They got nothing. It was a bad hiring decision for them. They paid Hunter a high salary for a while, and got nothing out of it.

    The fact is, anything to the contrary is fabricated, and a conspiracy theory.

    Biden was for decades the Senate politician with the smallest net worth. This is not the hallmark of a corrupt politician. Biden has always been economically middle class, unlike the vast majority of senators who are upper class. Biden did accumulate a net worth of about 9 million dollars, very late in life, the vast majority of it coming from book sales and from valuation of real state property that he purchased decades ago with his hard-earned money. Up to recently, before book proceedings, Biden's only significant asset was his house. When Beau got cancer and needed expensive treatments, Joe was about to sell his house. Obama stopped him from doing this, offering his own money as a loan to help Beau Biden.

    If Biden had some sort of hidden offshore account fueled by corruption, why would he need to try to sell his house to help his son's family with his medical bills??? The idea that Joe Biden is corrupt is a figment of the imagination of right wingers, and a groundless campaign talking point.

    I wouldn't say the same of Hunter Biden, though. I wouldn't be surprised if he got involved in something shady. But his father? Not at all, and Joe Biden is not responsible for his son's sins (except like I said, in terms of parenting - but it is not unheard of that the offspring of busy and powerful men includes some bad apple that is spoiled and weak).

    By the way, even a net worth of 9 million is not unheard of for a hard-working (previously) middle class person, at his age of 77. Many of us accumulate this kind of wealth or more (me included) without the need for a single corrupt or illicit dollar.

    A 77-year-old person who spent 55 years working, having a net worth of 9 million dollars. is entirely incompatible with being corrupt, especially to the degree that right wingers try to depict.

    Obama's net worth is 40 million dollars. George W. Bush's is 39 million. Nixon, 17 million. Ronald Reagan, 14 million.

    Biden's net worth is comparable with someone else who spent more than 5 decades in politics: Jimmy Carter (8 million).

    So, there is nothing extraordinary with Biden's net worth, to suspect him of corruption. It's all legit. Read about it here:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michel...idate-built-a-9-million-fortune/#330260ce104d

    Much more corrupt is one Donald J. Trump who defrauded students of his Trump "University", pocketed money from his supposedly charitable foundation, with both cases being disciplined by the courts, never paid a bunch of contractors, hired illegal aliens, and apparently is bank-rolled by a German bank notorious for money laundering and linked to the Russian mafia.

    To call Joe Biden corrupt with a net worth of 9 million dollars after 55 years of hard work (plus what his wife made, not huge but over the years it adds up), with his wealth being reasonably traced to book sales and real state valuation, is laughable, when you compare him with Donald J. Trump.

    And how do we know this? Because unlike Trump, Biden has released his tax returns. By the way, he paid $300,000 last year; he is not like Trump who paid $750.
     
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  10. quiller

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    Trump owed $750 after having made scheduled advance payments (which is not uncommon, despite what libs without businesses try to claim).

    Tell me again how a dishonorably-discharged druggie can wind up on the board of directors of a Russian company only about 90 days after his discharge.
     
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    When was he investigated?
     
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    A Senator makes $174,000 a year today. Biden was a Senator for 36 years, even if he saved every penny he made he would be worth about $6.2 million.
     
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    Archer is now running for the position of lead witness in the government's case in chief against Biden.
     
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    That's called sarcasm. He's outing him as a pedophile not so subtly.
     
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    Archer seems to think he’s got info on Biden that connects him to the fraud. At least, that was one thing he claimed when he didn’t get charged.

    Facing the same charges again, I’d imagine he’d make the same claim again. I’m curious to see what he’d have to say.

    I doubt it’ll change my mind, unless they really connect it to Joe, too, and all within the next couple of weeks. I don’t like some of the things Trump’s kids do, too.
     
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    Oh, so you didn't read my link, did you? Because every cent of his 9 million dollars are explained there. Half of it comes from the huge valuation that his water front property enjoyed over the years (now valued at more than 4 million dollars). A lot of the rest comes from book sales; some of it from speaking fees. Read the link before you comment, please.

    Jill + Joe Biden made almost one million dollars last fiscal year, and unlike Trump, it's all explained given that Biden did disclose his tax returns.

    Their net worth of 9 million is 100% compatible with what they earned, invested, and got lucky about (the valuation part).
     
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    Why the homophobic attack?
     
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    What homophobic attack ? What prejudiced assumption are you making ?
     
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    So, when you refer to the Attorney General as a "butt boy", that wasn't supposed to be a homophobic attack? Is that your assertion?
     
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    Absolutely. It refers to the fact that Dirty Donnie the SuperSpreader has Barr in his back pocket. It could also be interpreted as Barr acting at Dirty Donnie's behest as a form of kissing his ass.

    Why do you run straight to the homophobic attack interpretation ? Sounds biased to me.
     
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    I would point out that your terms are, pretty inflammatory. They seems designed to express a distaste for, a hate even, of folks who might engage in a kind of sex you seem intolerant of. You seem to be willing to casually thrown those kinds of comments out, and yet, when challenged, run away from the real intent. And while I have defended, personally, your right to have a freedom to say these hurtful or hateful comments, it is your way of enjoying being bigoted.
     
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    My terms are no more or less inflammatory than the prevailing standard that has been set for these current times and are comparable to, among many other examples, posts made on this web site and Tweets by the president of these United States.

    Your opinion of what my terms are is just that: you opinion. My "real intent" was explicitly stated and you accusations of bigotry and hatred are products of you opinion and not actual facts.
     
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    I have shoes in my closet older than her. I tend not to take advice from a left wing teenie bopper.

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=Michela+Tindera&search=&form=QBLH

    Just check out some of her anti-Trump articles.
     
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    Probably the same way that Donald Trump was described as a "self-made man" (after receiving over $400 million from his father)?

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...t-happens-when-you-tell-them-otherwise-224019
     
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    Yeah, yeah, shoot the messenger.
    Given that Biden disclosed his tax returns, you can look them up yourself, bypassing that person.
    Regardless of what Michela Tindera thinks, Biden's tax returns ARE out there for you to see that there is no sign of corruption.
    Pray tell, have Trump released his? What do you suppose is he hiding?
     
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