I've been reading a lot lately of wealthy, well known people leaving California. Joe Rogan. Elon Musk. Ben Shapiro. Stephen Graham: They are all leaving. They give a variety of reasons: taxes too high, too much poverty and homelessness, corrupt politicians. I have heard of many regular middle class people leaving too because of high real estate prices and difficulty finding work. I am a lifelong resident of California. I admit we have a few problems, but I'm not ready to flee just yet. Please respond to the poll if you are a California resident. Please leave a comment if you are a former California resident. Thank you.
i have lived in california all my long life. i moved from the bay area to southern california in the mid-seventies and thought i had finally seen hell. since then i have owned homes here, made contacts and developed a life. i'm not ready to leave just yet. at this point it is family commitments and real estate holdings that keep me here, along with a perverse need to chastize myself by living among the savages. as soon as those family commitments come to an end i plan on liquidating my holdings here for several million and fading off into the woodwork. i love this state. not for its people, who have become a caricature of the american dream, but for the state itself. i've always hated l.a., but i now see it as a hell hole run by and for the mostly illegal immigrant community. i've watched as the small towns around the southland have become filthy immitations of tijuana and i wouldn't set foot in most of them. my beloved san fransisco and the east bay are now an abomination. its people consist of entitled lay-abouts and limosine liberals, desperately trying to relive some past illusion of rebellion. the beautiful north is becoming polluted by those bay area residents who are attempting to flee the homeless and the filth. the land is still here, but those who dwell upon it are degraded immitations of humanity. the mountains, the forests, the seasides - they're all still here, but they are being filled with people (and i use that term loosely) who have no real appreciation of them.
Living under the smoke of forest fires for the last 3 or 4 years, homelessness has never been worse. Fires are not a result of climate change, it's a result of neglecting forest management. All the logging companies were run out of town by environmentalists. I have lived here my whole life, 58 years. I have never seen this kind of environmental destruction. This year was the worst year ever. I have been evacuated 3 times. My house came close to burning down. This has been a man made climate disaster. All due to liberal policies. I'm stuck here for now. Was planning on leaving a couple of years ago. I wish I had.
I was born there, but family moved while I was young. Was stationed there in the Navy in the 70's-80's and loved it. Am a business owner now in Wisconsin, and have stopped doing business in California entirely. The regulations, taxes, and people with bad attitudes (leftists) make it difficult enough to do business that it simply isn't worth the hassle. Have also stopped doing business in all of the northeast. Concentrate on the midwest and south.
Sorry to hear about your trouble with the fires. It's been terrible this year. I live in the central valley and about 3 weeks ago the smoke from three different fires was lingering here. It hung thick in the air day and night. Thank you for your response.
Yep, same here... too much hassle and given the cost of the regulations and taxes that must be built into any contract, that cost gets passed to the CA tax payer. No wonder they have high taxes and budget issues. Some nice scenery if you get out of the urban mazes, but lots places with as nice without the aggravation.
I am a WI resident, but as far as I am concerned, the SOTC (Socialist Oligarchy of the Territory of California) is no longer a US State (I personally only recognize 49 States atm), as the SOTC do not even follow their own State Constitution, let alone the Federal Constitution. The liberal pathogen has completely ruined what was once a great US State... Unfortunately, that pathogen is spreading to other still red leaning, but used to be solidly red States, such as Arizona, Texas, and Georgia... It has already taken over the once solidly red States of Colorado and Virginia.
Yes, it is. Even now. But its "Golden Age" is long gone. There was a time when people from across the country were moving there in huge numbers. But over the last 25 or 30 years, many have been leaving, wanting to get out of there. The only reason the total population hasn't been going down is due to immigration from foreign countries, about half legal and half illegal, combined with much higher fertility rates of the illegal ones.
Man finally decides to leave California He says the breaking point came when he visited some friends in Las Vegas and he noticed the traffic on the roads there wasn't terrible, there wasn't trash everywhere on the streets, and the home prices were a whole lot more affordable.
I own a trucking company... I have choices. I sometimes find it necessary to send trucks to Maine and Massachusetts, but I try to avoid them if I can. I never, ever, do business in CA. Walked away from that state years ago. The cost of doing business there is prohibitive.
I don't live in California (thank God), so I didn't vote. Back in the mid-90's my company almost moved me to San Diego, to work with the U. S. Navy. I am SO glad I stayed in Colorado instead, although it is sickening to see how many fugged-up Californians have moved here now to escape the idiotic effects of what they brought on themselves out there. Now they're here in Colorado, all over Denver and Boulder, and they've infested the mountain towns, too -- and they've brought all their American-hating insanity with them....
I was at the San Diego navy base for bootcamp in the late 1970s. It was a heavenly place, but I understand that nowadays San Diego has turned into a dangerous leftist created crap-pile. Sad.
Yeah, now there's 'flotillas' of sh!t floating up north from Tijuana so big that they have to close the beaches in San Diego fairly often. The problems with bums are so bad that they have to bring in trucks to hose down the city streets downtown to get rid of all the urine, crap, vomit and disease. I LOVED San Diego! I used to travel there on business and for pleasure a LOT. Now? It has no appeal for me at all and I wish we could seal our border here to keep all Californians the hell out of Colorado!
Ditto in regards to Texas. These Californians are fleeing their liberal created garbage piles for the freedoms and huge business opportunities of Texas -- and more power to those that are wise enough to do that -- but then some of them immediately try like hell to begin implimenting the exact same liberal policies in Texas that turned California into a lost cause. It's rank insanity.
That's the biggest fear... leftism is a virus. Escaping CA is a good thing for decent, hard working folks. Unfortunately, liberals are not decent people, and have learned nothing from the mess they created. They will infect and destroy the places they move to. Need to build a wall between the US and California.
Lived in CA for a few years late '70s, early '80s. Loved it. Now you couldn't pay me to even visit. Speaking of which, aren't they suffering from a drop in tourism? No one even goes there anymore; if they want warm weather and beaches, they go to FL.
You know the funny thing? 15 years ago, in these internet political discussion forums, conservatives were being warned what was happening in that state. But many of them expressed point blank that they "didn't care", because it was "happening in another state" that they didn't live in, so why should they worry about it? Which showed a profound level of shortsightedness.
