Undercover Epicenter Nurse

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  1. Bridget

    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    I'm reading this book and it is horrifying. I'm not quite finished, so maybe I should have waited to comment on it. I went into it with an open mind, thinking that the author, who is a nurse, might just be a disgruntled employee wanting to smear her former place of employment. But turns out this person has the ring of truth and she seems to know her stuff. A lot of it is particular to the NY hospital that she worked in, but she also tells a few things that seem to be general to most hospitals. Such as, I did not know that hospitals get paid more for "covid" patients, which would mean they have a true incentive to over count them. Also, she writes of Gov. Cuomo's executive order, which basically took all liability out of medical; they could not be sued, regardless what happened to patients. All you ever hear is about his failed nursing home policy, but I looked this up (because I could hardly believe it!) and his executive order did indeed do this and more. Anyone else read this book and, if so, what did you think?
     
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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Nurses don't "bill" anyone for services so I'm a bit skeptical about her "knowledge" of billing practices. If it was a book written by someone from the billing department of a hospital, or board of directors, we could give it more credence. Otherwise it's just a regurgitation of Hannity talking points.
     
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    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    Can't say for sure. But I tend to disagree that a nurse couldn't know anything about the financial process in hospitals. I have never been employed in accounting, but I have often had a good understanding of how the organization gets paid.
     
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    (original)late Banned

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    What book.
     
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    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    Any nurses out there willing to comment on whether a nurse would be likely to know about such things? Better yet, any nurses that have read this book and what are your thoughts?
     
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    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    Undercover Epicenter Nurse
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    One problem here being is that the reimbursements are based on death certificates. The people filling out the death certificates don't, themselves, have any financial incentives. They don't get that money.
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I knew this one nurse who would say or do anything to get attention.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    This is more about the documentary she was in than the book, but she doesn't look legit:

     
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    (original)late Banned

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    " Reviewed by a Professor of Nursing

    Reading her descriptions makes it clear that Erin does not understand nursing education, medical education, COVID-19, NYC, chain of command, or HIPAA. Examples:

    Chain of command: I have to question why Erin hasn't complained to an appropriate agency. The Joint Commission on Accreditation of Hospitals takes complaints seriously, as do Boards of Registered Nursing and Medical Boards. Those would be the appropriate agencies for filing complaints, where HIPAA protections for whistleblowers would apply, and real action to fix what Erin views as problems could be taken.

    Erin describes advocating for patients by trying to convince treating physicians to use Vitamin C, and touts zinc with hydroxychloroquine. I've watched the interview of her with the recorded conversation with an incredibly patient doctor. In the book, she refers to the doctor in Texas as using them successfully. That doctor is the same conspiracy theorist who believes in alien DNA and women's diseases are caused by sex with demons in dreams."

    Well paid kook.


    https://www.amazon.com/Undercover-E...nce-Unnecessary/dp/151076366X#customerReviews
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hospitals get 20% more for Covid-19 patients but this applies to Medicare patients only.

    There's no extra for anything else. Payments are for treatments/procedures - not conditions - any one of which can be used with a whole range of patients, not just COVID-19 patients. For instance, other types of patients need ventilators too, and the reimbursement will be the same for all of them.
     
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    Plus, again, the people who fill out the birth certificates don't get any of that money. They have no financial incentive.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's old and public news that by way of the CARES Act hospitals get $13000 per covid patient, and $39000 for each patient put on a ventilator.

    There was a nurse who went public some months back that fit into the one you're describing. Working temporarily in NY, but from somewhere else. She was quickly censored by TPTB and called every dirty name in the book by several posters here at PF. That's what happens to whistleblowers. In a time of universal deception, speaking the truth is a radical act.


    https://www.ise.media/video/exclusive-behind-the-making-of-plandemic-2-25.html

    Check out Ben Swann's website and you will discover why the best way to describe what we've all been through for the last 10 months is best described as Plandemic.
     
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    "Hospitals" don't sign death certificates. Doctors do. They see none of that money. This is, yet again, a fake argument. "Plandemic" is best described as one of the laziest, most ignorant, most dangerous conspiracy theories we've seen in decades.
     
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    Clearly this whole COVID-19 scheme was a calculated effort by Netflix and Amazon to keep us at home so we had nothing to do but watch TV and order stuff from the internet.
     
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    Nowhere in my post you replied to did I mention the signing of death certificates.

    I specifically mentioned hospital admissions and subsequent ventilator therapy.

    That you had to insert death certificate signing into it shows two things: how pathetically weak your position is, and how you tend to dishonest practices in public discussion.
     
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    The compensation for COVID is based on death certificates.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    They don't admit dead people to hospitals, genius. They don't put dead people on ventilators Einstein.

    The compensation is based upon "coding" upon admission and inside the hospital.
     
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    Bingo.
     
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    I did see those doctors on TV though who claim they were being pressured to list covid as cause of death. I guess my question would be pressured by who?

    I watched the video and wasn't terribly impressed with the guy, because it seemed to me like he was most of all protecting the medical establishment, and dislikes her, not because he could discount what she was saying, but didn't like that she said it. Also, he went to pretty great lengths to discredit her because she has stated a belief in freedom for parents to choose what vaccines they want their children to have (an "anti-vaxxer he called her) and insinuated that anyone concerned about vaccines is just crazy. He also said he had to dig really deep to find out she was an "anti-vaxxer," but she was very open about that in the book; devoted an entire chapter to it.

    It does make sense to me that she might have done that.
     
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    WUT?
     
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    The doctor I know best owns the freaking hospital. LOL
     
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    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    $13,000 is a lot of money, especially when you multiply it by 100s. Just sayin'....
     
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    Yeah, there were two doctors saying that. Two. I can link to more about that, but again, there is no financial incentive for them. As for the guy in the video, you should watch more of him. As he mentioned, he's more than happy to accept criticism of the medical establishment and mentioned some himself. He dislikes her for her apparent fraud, and she discounted several things that sh said.

    Yes, anti-vaxxers are pretty much without any merit. I'm sorry, but it is true.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    And how would the people who actually sign the death certificates actual go about getting that money? Be specific. I can go into more detail about how looney this is if you want.
     
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