U of Minnesota -- 12 step recovery program for whiteness

Uh... uh... let's talk about gays instead.

 

So it is a comprehension issue, carry on

 

Fair points. The voluntary lecture is just icky, IMO. In a land of free speech, it's not as bad as the KKK rallies, that I also support.

I've let myself down by being inconsistent!

My BFF issue is still new, so it's coloring my judgement against PC.

 

Not at all, but feel free to explain.

 

Political correctness is almost always stupid, you shouldn’t want to control how others feel or who they congregate with (including your KKK rally example) unless it is designed to harass others. I don’t believe equal rights should be up for debate however.

 

It's very similar in my corner as well.

Nobody really cares about our local diversity cuz we're not shooting each other.

 

So first of all most of those are patently false. The ONLY ones that have any truth to them are the healthcare one (which is mostly about HIV an unsubstantiated claims) and the adoption one of which there is DAMN good reason for. So you’re gonna need to source those BS claims.

But regardless, you’re talking about IMPLICIT discrimination or discrimination committed by individuals. Because that’s all you have. I on the other hand have blatant and explicit discrimination against whites and males by government programs and policy.

So we will start with the low hanging fruit that everyone is aware of. Affirmative Action which outright discriminates against individuals based upon racial and ethnic characteristics.

But that’s FAR from the only one:

Our government provides tax credits to businesses who hire minority contractors but not for hiring white contractors. Essentially paying businesses to hire ANY race except for whites.

Our government provides grants and loans to minority farmers that white farmers can’t get access to because the color of their skin is white.

Our government through the SBA program 8a provides grants, loans, and government contracts to minority businesses but either outright denies whites based upon their race or forces them to jump through literally impossible hoops that NO other race has to jump through to qualify for those benefits.

Our government provides tax incentives to people who invest in minority businesses but not for investing in white owned businesses, making it far more difficult for a white owned business to receive financing. Based on NOTHING more than their skin color.

Those are just a few of the federal programs, certainly not exhaustive, and I haven’t even begun to talk about the state and local programs that explicitly discriminate against whites in order to benefit minorities such as NYC set aside $1.5B in taxpayer funds for minority business owners that white business owners can’t get access to because the color of their skin is white.

There are literally dozens if not 100+ more. That’s ACTUAL explicit, systemic, institutionalized discrimination.

 

Yes we have blatant racists of many races.

Would a black racist benefit from a different program?

 

I have spoken out against it many times, racism against whites is as wrong as racism against blacks

yes, the left has fanatics too, just like the right

to me a seminar telling white people how not to be a racist, would be no different than one telling black people how not to be criminals, as in both you are assuming the race is mostly that

then again it's voluntary so maybe the people going feel they need it

 

FFS the left has created an ENTIRE vernacular in order to discriminate against us. They use terms like culturally, socially and economically disadvantaged when what they ACTUALLY mean is non-white, non-straight, non-Christian and non-male. All concepts that are constitutionally protected. But as long as they use culturally, economically and socially disadvantaged, it’s legal.

They use terms like minority and majority when they actually mean things like non-whites and whites respectively. They do so because it is INCREDIBLY racist, discriminatory and unconstitutional to advocate for positions that benefit non-whites at the exclusion of whites, but it’s perfectly acceptable as long as they couch it in terms of benefitting the minority at the expense of the majority.

And nobody cares. It’s like it’s a-okay to discriminate against white people but if there’s even HINT of discrimination against blacks, everybody is supposed to get their panties in a wad, allow them to loot and riot and burn peoples businesses down or stage protests and block roads and screw with people’s lives and if you don’t you’re a racist.

 

not sure where non-Chrisitan came in there, that is not a white only thing, in fact Mexico is more Christian than America percent wise

that said, one should not discriminate based on race, gender or religion

 

Every item I posted can be easily sourced — and while I disagree with AA and racial quotas as a general practice (even though white women have been seen to be the largest recipient) — that you put money over being legally allowed to start a family or not be discriminated against legally shows just how, dare I say, privileged you are. For you saying there is ‘good reason’ why group A isn’t allowed a specific right everything you just listed will be met with others saying there is ‘good reason’ for these items to exist.

If you were pushing for 100% equal treatment in the eyes of the law then I would agree fully with you — but you are not.

 

It’s almost like some of those groups have been discriminated against for generations — by the very groups that are now screaming about it... Strange times we live in

 

Really? So you support incestuous marriages and polygamous marriages right? I mean we want everyone to be on equal footing, since that’s what you’re claiming.

 

Incestuous marriage almost universally has abuse as an underlying cause along with health and mental defects it causes more issues than it solves. Marriage also seeks to create legal kinship where there is none so it is not warranted for individuals already related. I see no legally valid reason to ban polygamy.

So again, you are complaining that you don’t get to benefit financially from programmes designed to help the less fortunate while simultaneously arguing you should be able to impose on others lives because it doesn’t suit you. Money is apparently more important than health and family to some... But only when you are not at risk of losing anything, right?

 

no one is allowed polygamous marriages, but some are allowed to marry women, and some are allowed to marry men, so everyone shoudl have that right

as for incestuous marriages, some are allowed and as we have anonymous adoptions, many probably happen that do not even know

 

Some say they were democrats.

 

Well said.

 

Almost all cases doesn’t mean every single one. Which according to you is discrimination. Because if I were to say that homosexuals are GROSSLY overrepresented in child molestation as being a justifiable reason to deny them the right to adopt, you would say that not all of them are like that.

Furthermore with this post denying equality to incestuous and polygamous couples you violated your own statement in regards to:

“For you saying there is ‘good reason’ why group A isn’t allowed a specific right everything you just listed will be met with others saying there is ‘good reason’ for these items to exist.

If you were pushing for 100% equal treatment in the eyes of the law then I would agree fully with you — but you are not.”

See you don’t want 100% equality any more than I do. You only want equality insofar as it’s beneficial to your favored group of perversion. Which makes all of your emotional seething about “equality” nothing more than a calculated ploy to gain support for your cause while you masquerade your own desire for inequality under the guise of social justice.

 

Same argument could have been made before gay marriage. Men could marry any woman they wanted including a gay man could do so. However neither a straight man nor a gay man could marry another man.

That’s just as “equal” as what you said.

 

Except homosexuals aren’t, dozens of threads have been created on this and the bigots eventually flee when they run out of ways to twist 50 year old reports. I am pretty sure you have attempted — and failed — to push that narrative in many of those threads as well. Adult heterosexual men who are close family members are actually the primary group of offenders — not that you care about the truth here (almost like there is some agenda present, I wonder what it could be...)

I don’t know what you are even talking about, I said I see no reason why polygamy should be banned, it was in plain English so I am not sure how you missed it. Furthermore incestious relationships already have kinship so there is no reason to give them kinship... as it already exists...

If you have to skip over what someone said in order to make your point, your narrative is likely a lie.


But feel free to continue whining that life isn’t fair while you demand others lose basic rights and freedoms.
So again: If you were pushing for 100% equal treatment in the eyes of the law then I would agree fully with you — but you are not.

 

Could that be applied to interracial marriage as well?
Living up to your avatar again I see...

 

Oh so now it’s okay to discriminate against the other group?

Is it acceptable to discriminate based upon race and ethnicity or not? I’m fine either way. What I’m not fine with is your side discriminating against whites and then saying we can’t discriminate against blacks.

 

No because race, being an immutable characteristic, is explicitly protected under the constitution.

And you’re hilarious. You’re JUST as discriminatory as I am, it’s just that you believe your discrimination against incestuous and polygamous partners is okay and mine against homosexuals is not lol

 

Btw you can’t claim those arguments because you already accepted the counter from the homosexuals.

The homosexuals argued that having their marriages recognized by the state and the benefits that come with it are a result of love. If people love each other and they want to be married that’s all that should matter. Economic concerns are irrelevant, the type of people being married is irrelevant, having children is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is that they love one another. So they should be able to marry, have their marriage recognized by the government and receive all the benefits that come along with it.

We told y’all that accepting those arguments were going to come back to bite you.