Excess Deaths

Since you aren't adding data, define failure. This will be fun.

 

You're evading the point. This is about the data you presented and your misrepresentation of it. The reality is that the data doesn't support the line you were presenting at all.

 

Data

 

Your one-sided studies have exactly ZERO value because they are one sided and financed by the government with ONLY one purpose to justify suspension of human rights.
So we are at the square one ZERO to ZERO.

 

That graph exactly prove the point.
We have less deaths in 2019 (no spike in the winter of 2019) and the we have double spike in 2020.

 

I know you desperately wanted that to mean something. Sadly it didn't

 

Yea...from COVID DEATHS

 

from increased sucides and drug overdoses,
from increasing mortality
and from lock-downs.
and less accessible health care facilities (along with unjustified fears).

 

For the person who defies basic logic nothing will have any meaning.

 

Really?

Post data showing how much.

Your claim seems to be that it was such a large incidence that it accounts for 300,000 excess deaths and yet you can't produce any data to prove this.

Odd huh? (this is getting ridiculous)

 

I disagree with you. And since you are not offering any real counterpoint, then perhaps we should agree to disagree.

 

Posting the same chart three times does not make a chart three times more valuable. Imagine that.

 

^^^^^

 

I've said this before, and I have no doubt I will need to say it again.

No one knows, after the year is done, the numbers guys will run the numbers and come up with a good estimate. This is above our pay grade.

 

The CDC data gives the number of deaths from suicide and drug overdoses

 

The value of that chart is in the accuracy of those CDC stats...the fact that you continually ignore it in favor of some Candace Owens nonsense notwithstanding

 

Do they show the increase over the same time period against a five year average? What did show?

 

You gotta love the internet statisticians.
They think they know more than the real ones.

 

Let's recap.

The thread supposedly "proves" that there has not been any excess deaths. Obviously that is false and has been proven to be so

Then it devolves into claiming that that huge increase can be accounted for by an increase in suicides and drug over doses ...but they can't provide any actual data to back THAT up.

A consistent argument would be nice but obviously not something you'll ever get from Trump fans

Actual data and real facts based on the actual dates of the pandemic are far too much to ask for

 

The thread asked the question, "Where are the excess deaths?" It was a question and invitation for people to see what I was looking at or point out any error I may have missed.

Someone pointed out that the data did not include 3 weeks of January, which I corrected and publicly noted.

There was never "proof" that there have been zero excess deaths. The thread was intended as a conversation and a few people have contributed quite a lot of useful and meaningful content so far. I'd like to thank them for their thoughtful input.

 

Can't remember the details other than they show the actual number of deaths from cases such as suicide and drug overdose. Those saying that there has been a big increase could provide the figures but won't because the increase will be insignificant compared to the number of excess deaths

 

To be honest, I'm completely baffled as to the point of this excess deaths analysis. Just going to stick this in here anyway.
CDC excess deaths with COVID-19 separated out in blue.

 

And your "error" has been pointed out

 

And there it is in green

 

There should be 'excess deaths' over the next decade as more and more of the 'boomers' reach their average life expectancy.

...they'll blame it on such and such 'pandemics' of course in a bid to consolidate more emergency powers, but its really just more people getting old.