Excess Deaths

They compiling that data after year ends.

 

That is whole point
They rushed to publish data that helps them to take away our freedom and suspend our rights, but they did not publish how much people suffered from shutting down the economy.

 

Are the thousands of deaths caused by several governors like this governors of NY and NJ placing infected people in nursing homes considered “excess”?

 

Even now you can't get your facts straight. You missed 26 days of January, not 3 weeks (which is 21 in case you are unaware). That is almost 4 weeks and amounts to approximately 220,000 deaths. You lost all credibility in your first post and have been underwater since.

Accurate data has been repeatedly posted here showing the excess deaths for the months when COVID has been most active. You can pretend anything you want, but it is clear that there have been hundreds of thousands of deaths above what would have been expected and above the same period in previous years. The best thing you can do at this point is admit that your entire premise was false and quit the discussion.

 

See Posts 77 and 81. Did you read the thread before scolding me? lol

Zillions and Zillions of excess deaths. Yes, I heard the story.

 

The same chart posted for a fourth time, but in a different color scheme. Different colors make it a better and more informational chart.

 

And both charts shot you in the ass.

THAT one however shows what those "other" deaths (suicide etc.) amount to

I'm surprised you show your face on this bogus thread ...That takes an amazing amount of courage after being so thoroughly shown to be "wrong".

 

Just checked. Still have a$$. Still have face. No damage done, but thanks for your concern over my body parts.

 

Even though one of my favorite (and one of very few remaining) aunts died of Covid-19 I don't believe the number of deaths attributed to Covid-19 are all that significant (except to their loved ones for the most part).

 

I don’t know one person who even contracted the virus, Every one of my friends is in that same vstahory, but somehow there are many people on message boards who have had several friends, co workers and family members die.


Am I living in a bubble?

 

What is there to disagree on? We've agreed that you initially made an error with that dates so can apply the same simple calculation you did in the OP but with the right dates. The only other point I made was about the reporting lag for death rates but you can't really say you've disagreed with that since you haven't even acknowledged the point.

 

Where do you live?

 

I'm very sorry for your loss. My condolences.

 

I admitted a data error on dates in my original calculation.

We disagree on your comment, "The reality is that the data doesn't support the line you were presenting at all."

 

https://data.cdc.gov/browse?category=NCHS&limitTo=datasets&sortBy=last_modified

 

The entire concept of the thread is bogus.

That'll teach you to pay attention to anything Candace Owens posts

 

Yeah. That'll sure teach me. It will teach Candace Owens too, gosh darn it!

 

But your basis for that argument in this thread was your calculation that the overall death rate so far in 2020 isn't higher than the previous two years. The correction of the dates changes that calculation and leads to a result that would be higher than the previous two years (even without the reporting lag). How can you stick to the same conclusion when the underlying data has changed?

 

So you don't care.

Being spectacularly wrong means nothing to you?

 

I did not claim that there were no excess deaths. I asked the question, and threw it out there for feedback....which I received. It seemed like I was missing something, because I don't believe excess deaths would be absolutely zero. The answer is still not a lot higher than "break even", so my conclusion remains the same.

So let's say that 2020 deaths end up at 900 per 100,000 people total, from ALL causes. That increases excess deaths by 50 per 100,000 due to increased novel viral infections, increased heart attacks/strokes/cancers from cutting off treatments, increased homicides and suicides. Are excess deaths of 0.05% of the population worth also destroying the economy and increasing homelessness and poverty for the coming several years?

 

Yeah, right. I don't care. Being spectacularly wrong is just who I am. All I have to do is ask my dear friends here, like you.

You're so smart. Thanks for being here, Lesh, my little PF ray of sunshine and light.

 

That's another miscalculation.
That's the number with the shutdown. The number without the shut down was generally accepted to be 2.2 million excess deaths.

 

Being spectacularly wrong seems to not bother you at all

 

Posting the same chart over and over will sure teach me a lesson! LOL