Journalist Glenn Greenwald blasts the media’s ‘cone of silence’ around Hunter Biden’s email scandal

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  1. AmericanNationalist

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    The worst part, is that all of this could have been fleshed out if the Democratic Party wanted to, but it didn't want to. Because, why give you a good candidate, when it could try to hide its dirty laundry just like it tried and nearly succeeded to hide that it spied on the Trump Campaign!?
     
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    It's effecting the votes of the independents to flow Trump's way. A lot of people on Libertarian pages I follow have decide to for go voting for Jorgensen in order to block Biden from getting in, so they are voting Trump.

    This has been a slow and steady trend for a while now, but all of a sudden it seems like an avalanche.
     
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    'Had it for a long time', and yet all of this came out like last week? To throw the question back at you, they probably didn't have it for a long time.
     
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    That is an interesting thought. I just voted for Jo Jorgensen yesterday. :angel:
     
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    Well if there was a benefit to Burisma or Zlochevsky, it's not very apparent, because Hunter was on the board from 2014-2019 and those coincide with the timeline of prosecutions of Zlochevsky (fled Ukraine in 2014 and was declared a wanted criminal, returned in 2018 when the charges were stayed, and fled again in 2018 when a recording between him and the old President he served under got released proving the charges and now he lives in Monaco) which have had zero material benefit to Zlochevsky or Burisma.

    So yeah, if you could figure out how Burisma or Zlochevsky benefited (unless it was to the benefit of the company to have the corrupt CEO removed, then that would make logical sense), I'd gladly listen.

    Yeah except I don't trust the emails until they are independently verified.
     
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    When it comes to DJT, they don't worry too much about getting real evidence, fact checking, verification - or telling the whole story.
    Why would/should/could/do they have a different standard for Biden?
     
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    I was thinking the same thing.

    They don't want Joe, they just want his name to get Kamala in.
     
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    Bit of a conundrum for conservatives ...

    They want the MSM to talk about the Biden kid's emails - but then they say that everything that comes out of the MSM is fake news ...

    So if the MSM talks about emails, they are shoveling out fake news ...
     
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    If I believed in Democracy, I would vote for her as well. She far more intelligent and we'll versed on issues than either Biden or Trump. Her Ph.D from Clemson is impressive. She holds many positions I hold, and is far more credible than Johnson.
     
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    So, the people of Delaware elected Biden to six Senate terms, and the American people elected Biden twice on the Obama ticket, after being extensively vetted by the Obama campaign in 2008. Obama missed it, but Delaware computer guy solves the crime. Blind Boy Mac Isaac, master detective. Plays a bad ass slide, too. Is that what you believe?
     
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    Like Bush/Cheney?
     
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    These purported activities occurred in 2014, and would I believe that the Obama Administration essentially hushed things up? Yeah, Obama was super active during the Clinton investigation so I have no doubt.
     
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    When the activities occurred is irrelevant to my point.

    Trump likes to paint Biden's length of service as a negative. It's a strength. The odds of getting struck by lightening twice in one day are better than this story being true. You don't get elected to six Senate terms and serve two terms as vice-president after being vetted by the Obama administration if you're corrupt. Are you saying Biden went rogue after becoming VP? Or that he fooled everyone; voters, government, friends, neighbors, his wife (is Jill in on it too?), until Mac Isaac Spade came along. Conspiracy theorist, unreliable witness, Trump backer, blind.

    Joe Biden spent three hours a day on Amtrak to raise his sons after his wife and daughter were killed. Yeah, big mafia boss.
     
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    If I asked you for the dates of Biden's elections, and the dates of Hunter Biden's selling of access, would that make your mistake here obvious enough, or would I have to explain it further to you?
     
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    I vote for LP candidates not because I think they will win, but so that I can keep a clear conscience. Presuming that voting means or changes anything at all, I vote LP third party because I refuse to participate in the duopoly. I did vote for Tulsi in the primary.
     
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    Note that -none- of this negates the veracity of the cliams.
     
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    Joe Biden went rogue? Yeah, right.
     
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    Do you understand why "Obama missed it" is inaccurate / illogical when the alleged corruption happened years after the alleged 2008 vetting?
     
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    Potential candidates are vetted on character. Joe Biden has a solid record in this regard. To suggest Joe Biden suddenly, with no stated motive nor evidence of either deals or cash transactions, decided to throw away his then 40 year career for international gangsterism, is beyond believability. On its face.
     
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    The motive is money, and I don't find it "beyond believability" at all. Joe Biden has a history of plagiarism, general dishonesty, sexual harassment (possibly including rape), and has raised an absolute shitbag of a son. You speak of "character", but Joe Biden is the consumate swamp creature. He doesn't have "character". He's like Rod Blagojevich, except with mainstream media cover.
     
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    He raised an exemplary son and daughter, as well. The black sheep game ain't gonna roll.

    Biden spent his entire Senate career known as the poorest man in the Senate. But for some unexplained reason, money suddenly became a motivation in his life. I don't believe that.

    Your opinion of the bayou noted, Biden has no "history" of any of these things. Anyone can find anything in a career as long as Biden's, in any profession. Doesn't mean a thing, except as weak ammunition against an opponent.

    You're going to need something more substantial than opinion.
     
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    I've asked this question before, but didn't receive an answer then:

    In your case, go ahead and replace "outstanding character" with "exemplary".

    Huh? Let's just take the first thing on my list: plagiarism. You don't think Biden has a history of plagiarism? Are you even familiar with Biden's history?
     
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    While I did not agree with all of her positions, Tulsi was the only legit candidate the Democrats had running. I can understand why you cast your vote for her.

    She destroyed Harris- that was fun to watch!
     
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    The "cone of silence" works just fine. I have relatives that know nothing of the lap top and when questioned they have bought in to the Russian theory hook line and sinker. They stupidly believe that if the MSM doesn't cover it then it has no merit, because, IT IS WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE and the democrats that run MSM know it well, the propaganda machine is alive and well in the good old USA.
     
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    ROFL!!! You literally impeached a president with NO charges of a crime and we have a physical laptop, with implicating emails with a corroborating business partner and yet you defend this man....

    Talk about inside out, upside down world the left lives in....
     
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