'Staggering numbers': Early voting is breaking records in 2020

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Quadhole, Oct 19, 2020.

  1. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    29,922
    Likes Received:
    14,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I swear, Te, you simply amaze me.... You and I are so much ALIKE in so many viewpoints that it astounds me that we are still poles-apart on some others.

    I, too, made my best 'move' in real estate, ten years ago. I took a piece of property I owned about 30 miles northwest of Austin, Texas and made a KILLING with it. And, back when I was working in a big corp., I did very well with stock options I was given -- selling them at almost the very highest point they ever reached.

    Now, retired, I too need to keep everything in balance and preserve my position (to borrow your phrase). And, yes, I'm beyond madder-than-holy-hell at the microscopic, piss-ant 1.3% increase in SS benefits, which come on top of 12 years of piss-ant increases, or, years during the Obama regime when there were NO increases at all!

    Back on topic, I think that the 'staggering'-high numbers of people who have already voted have done so because everybody (EVERYBODY) is just so damned, strap-chewing MAD and FURIOUS at nearly EVERYTHING! We ALL feel this way by now, Left and Right, because we've been lied to, treated like sh!t by everyone and everything, and we're sick to death of watching this country slowly turn into a giant pile of CRAP.

    And it's not like we have the luxury of roiling in our 'discontent' in a vacuum! NO -- and that's possibly the greatest danger of all. Our opponents in the world are watching us like a hungry pack of jackals, just at the periphery of our sickening spectacle, laughing at our stupidity, our CUPIDITY, our growing parasitism, and our abandonment of any pretense to further achievement of enduring superior accomplishment and success!

    [​IMG]. "We're winning! And never even fired a single shot!"
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  2. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,150
    Likes Received:
    19,390
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If you wan't to know my position, just ask. No reasonable person could extract that from my post. One example comes to mind. Here in So Cal, we had a terrorist couple commit murder with a legally purchased firearm. Even though they were already on the radar, and the gun store employee raised a red flag with law enforcement, none of the infringements on our rights made us any safer. Our laws simply provided them with easy victims.

    BTW, I lived on a ranch at age 9. I had unrestricted access to firearms and frequently took them out to our private range. The only rule was that I had to reload the ammo I used.
     
  3. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Indeed - thus, the ignore list. :)
    Virtually all gun control laws have one intent, and one effect:
    To make it harder for the law-abiding to exercise their right to keep and bear arms.
     
    Bravo Duck and Doofenshmirtz like this.
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    well, that's what criminals WANT us to think. that way we will reduce gun laws so they can have better access to guns.

    fact is most gun laws are designed to keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of criminals and those who are not safe to possess them.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  5. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    16,925
    Likes Received:
    13,463
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Cool. I'm happy to admit I misunderstood. I never try to put words in people's mouths. I'm a person who isn't here to win, as much as I am to learn; especially about different viewpoints. When you said below, I thought you meant requiring a permit was unacceptable, as it is how our rights get taken away, in dribbles.

    Thats why we should never allow our rights to be taken away in nibbles. It starts with a permit, ands end with denying the permit.
     
  6. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,150
    Likes Received:
    19,390
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Requiring a permit became unacceptable when they changed from "shall issue" to "may issue".
     
  7. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    16,925
    Likes Received:
    13,463
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    I think "most' gun laws are in place to give people a warm-n-fuzzy feeling that it will keep guns out of the hands of dangerous criminals.
     
    ChiCowboy likes this.
  8. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    16,925
    Likes Received:
    13,463
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Please clarify. I'm trying to understand. Are you for or against permits? If you are against permits, how do you keep them out of the hands of my short list; minors, blind people, sociopaths?
     
    MJ Davies and Derideo_Te like this.
  9. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28,150
    Likes Received:
    19,390
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Shall issue permits give government the power to deny those not on your short list. In the end, every criminal that wants a gun has one already. Even minors get them. Where I live, they had to install metal detectors in schools.

    BTW, blind people are not prohibited from owning guns.
     
  10. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    16,925
    Likes Received:
    13,463
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Thanks for the clarification.

    My views on gun laws have changed dramatically, mostly since joining this forum.

    I had no idea blind people could own a gun. That is counter-intuitive.
     
    Doofenshmirtz likes this.
  11. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    29,922
    Likes Received:
    14,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Disagree, Te. When it says you can 'bear arms' it means BEAR ARMS... and there's no stipulation about where the weapons are borne, or with what degree of visibility. Immaterial and irrelevant....
     
  12. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Supreme Court disagrees.

    They have stood by and allowed concealed-carry laws for decades.

    Even the SCOTUS that decided Heller and McDonald refused to take cases challenging concealed-carry and May Issue.
     
    Pollycy likes this.
  13. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2016
    Messages:
    26,523
    Likes Received:
    7,498
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That's not what a vaccine does.
     
  14. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    29,922
    Likes Received:
    14,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Anybody who doesn't have a CCP in the United States today is trusting to the mercy of an increasingly unpredictable, potentially very dangerous population in which too many people no longer have any regard for the law or the lives and rights of other citizens. Never be a law-breaking tyrant, but, never be a stupid, oblivious victim, either....
     
    roorooroo likes this.
  15. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do YOU own the public spaces in all of the 80+ cities in Los Angeles?

    Can YOU walk around stark naked in the public spaces in all of the 80+ cities in Los Angeles?

    Can YOU light open fires in the public spaces in all of the 80+ cities in Los Angeles?

    Can YOU play LOUD MUSIC all night long in the public spaces in all of the 80+ cities in Los Angeles?

    WHY is your "freedom" in the public spaces in all of the 80+ cities in Los Angeles REGULATED to PREVENT you from doing ALL of those things?
     
  16. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113

    ALL rights CAN be REGULATED by the government of We the People!

    DEMANDING a government issued ID in order to exercise the RIGHT to VOTE while getting all bent out of shape about needing a government issued PERMIT in order to exercise the right to bear arms in public is outright HYPOCRISY of the highest order.
     
  17. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Amen, brother, amen to that bit of truth!
    The problem is that WE set OURSELVES up for this FAILURE, Cy.

    You probably won't agree with everything in this video but I would appreciate you watching all of it from start to finish because if essentially identifies the problem you are describing very accurately.



    We are the architects of our current dire situation and, as with all self inflicted problems, only we have the power to change ourselves so as to STOP inflicting this upon ourselves.

    We CANNOT deal with our problem until we STOP fighting each other.

    We need to come to the realization that WE are ALL in this predicament TOGETHER!

    UNITED we as a nation have achieved great things.

    DIVIDED as we CURRENTLY are we are ENABLING ourselves to be EXPLOITED by the UNSCRUPULOUS.

    So we MUST find Common Ground with each other. That is the ESSENTIAL first step towards REGAINING our self respect and then putting our SHAMBLES of a nation back in order.

    This is NOT an easy challenge that we face but we have faced tougher problems than this before so we can deal with this one too.

    The only question that each of us needs to answer is do we, as an individual, want to continue to be part of the problem or do we want to be part of the solution instead?

    We cannot wait for EVERYONE to agree on this but those of us who already want to be part of the solution need to get together and start working on it.
     
  18. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    56,871
    Likes Received:
    22,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    More democrats are voting early for Trump.
     
    Bravo Duck likes this.
  19. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2012
    Messages:
    10,535
    Likes Received:
    8,149
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Your hyperbole aside, along with your caps lock key being stuck, no one got 'bent out of shape', I stated fact. You may not like the fact, but it is regulation, and it is an infringement. Most people abide by it, but that doesn't mean it is a power of the government, granted by We, the People.

    As to IDs to vote, it clarifies who the person is, and where they should be on the voter roles. The ID is not just for identification for voting, it is required for many other things, so trying to conflate voting and the Right To Bear Arms is absurd at best.
     
    roorooroo and Bravo Duck like this.
  20. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    16,925
    Likes Received:
    13,463
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Can you clarify? Is there any restriction on fire arm ownership that you support?
     
  21. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2009
    Messages:
    25,440
    Likes Received:
    852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Remember, the left is in a race, a race to get as many of their drones to vote early as soon as possible as the Hunter Biden scandal and Babbling Joes loss of sentience becomes obvious even to the left.
     
  22. DavidMK

    DavidMK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2015
    Messages:
    2,685
    Likes Received:
    690
    Trophy Points:
    113
    South Korea managed to stop it and that was with a Death Cult trying to spread it. This is 100% on Trump sticking his head in the sand.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  23. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2009
    Messages:
    25,440
    Likes Received:
    852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do states rights allow for the regulation of abortion, for equal justice? Can a state created a 'separate but equal' system of law enforcement, education, etc. All a state can do is regulate to the limits of what the Constitution protects and that limit is today set by the courts.
     
  24. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    16,925
    Likes Received:
    13,463
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Only in the fevered minds of those who worship Trump.

    You may not know this, but there is no such thing as a "temporarily put dementia on hold," pill for Joe to take. Don't listen to the faux PF doctors who suggest there is. Do I need to remind you that Trump has difficulty forming a cohesive thought?

    Here's why Trump wants a second term:
    "But so I think, I think it would be, I think it would be very, very, I think we'd have a very, very solid, we would continue what we're doing, we'd solidify what we've done, and we have other things on our plate that we want to get done,"
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2020
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  25. Quadhole

    Quadhole Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2016
    Messages:
    1,702
    Likes Received:
    692
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yea, sure they are... and you know because you have 86k posts on this site ?
     
    roorooroo likes this.

Share This Page