Final Debate

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Kal'Stang, Oct 22, 2020.

  1. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Joe said he was going to phase out the oil industry to a complete shut down of the oil industry.
     
  2. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OIL.

    Black gold. Texas Tea!

    LOL

     
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  3. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Quote?

    He will do it in 4 yrs?

    Some day, without a doubt. Oil will go the same route as Whale oil went.

    It never went away completely.
     
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  4. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sigh. You can replay the debate on YouTube if you want a quote directly out of Joe Biden's mouth.

    He said he would start with oil production cuts and completely end oil by 2050.

    Meanwhile....This is Texas.

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  5. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Umm..So what, If by 2050 we are still dependent on Oil..we have lost as a nation anyway. We better have alternate energy by then, you think that crap is gonna last forever?
    And Plastic is set to biodegrade by when? Yea that's not going anywhere neither. Dont worry your husbands job is safe no matter who wins...If anything with a blue guy in charge he may see a payraise if his company unionizes.
     
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    Trump owned Biden like he owned Jeb! Made a complete fool out of him.
     
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  7. Melb_muser

    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    You bet. Time to move on from that ugly industry
     
  8. Melb_muser

    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    There will still be a fossil fuel industry. How do you think planes and battleships/certain industries are going to run? It just won't be the major source of power for everyday stuff, just a necessity for certain things.

    it's a bit silly Biden saying he's going to phase it out as if he has some sort of control (assuming that's what he said). The market will phase it out as renuable electricity becomes cheaper and cheaper and cheaper.

    What he can do is stop the fossil fuel and dirty grid power industries from trying to block renewable energy from taking off and provide incentives for it to flourish
     
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    Maybe if you're from China.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Great.

    Turn your car in and turn your electricity off to help drive up the demand for solar and wind.
     
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Millions work in the oil industry directly and indirectly. They make good incomes and pay lots of taxes. Our country can’t afford to end that industry for many reasons. If you don’t know how it works, that’s probably why you vote Democrat.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sure the "Socialist Party" will emerge after Biden's defeat. That will greatly weaken the Democrat Party and steal from their platform. They'll have to reinvent.
     
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    China doesn't even have to address the issue until 2030 if then. We are light years ahead in clean air yet we have to breathe theirs. Why should we stifle our economy further?
     
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  14. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Ironically those solar and wind components use....you guessed it...oil!
     
  15. FatBack

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    Oh sure, naturally. Did you expect differently to happen?
     
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    Quit whining. Trump spoke for 41 minutes, Biden for 38. Look it up.
     
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    Biden’s idea of no oil will happen about the same time as trumps wall
     
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    I didn't watch the debate. The election is making me too nervous and stressed out. I want to disconnect a bit and just wait for the results (which will only come at least one week after the election). Primarily due to Covid-19, I want Trump to lose. But I did read a bit about debate highlights, and I'll say this: in 2016, when Hillary said that the coal jobs were never coming back, I said to my wife and my son at the time: "uhoh, she just lost the Rust Belt and the election." They doubted it. And then it happened.

    I think this comment by Biden may lose him at least Pennsylvania if not more (Texas too but I never thought he could win Texas). Maybe it won't given that so many people have voted already, but it's stupid anyway.

    Why are politicians so stupid? He could perfectly have said "one day in the future clean energy will become cheap and abundant and due to market forces, will slowly substitute more and more of the fossil fuel industry, but we are not there yet. The key regarding jobs, is to assist people in retraining and transitioning their jobs from one modality of energy to the other, but it won't be in my administration since it is still in the relatively distant future." There. Easy, right? You appear sensitive to new energy to please the left wing of your party, and you don't scare away the blue collar workers in some swing states.

    Also apparently he underlined Trump's bank account in China, but correct me if I'm wrong, didn't deliver what I was telling my wife today, would be the obviously line: "How come you paid the equivalent of $188,000 in taxes to China but just $750 to America?"

    Sometimes, frankly, LOL, I think that campaigns should hire me as manager... Just kidding, but seriously, some better ways to respond to questions and to upset your adversary seem pretty obvious and I don't comprehend how career politicians and their professional campaign managers can't think of them.
     
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  19. squidward

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    Maybe the Texas and Pennsylvania voters will appreciate your sentiment
     
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    Its disqualifying, because here's the thing about the wall: It may not be politically correct to say or even feel, but if the wall had been built not a single person would have honestly complained(let me reiterate, not a single US Citizen who's American first would have complained.)

    A tearing down of the oil industry not only destroys millions of jobs, it also destroys one of our richest states(Texas). Can you imagine what a Texas secession would really look like? The US would freaking crumble. And if it were over the oil production, the US can't go and pull a Lincoln war of aggression(especially under a Liberal Administration) and not look like a total jackass.

    That's another reason there'll never be a 'civil war', Liberals care too much about the UN. The UN would've had no problem calling Lincoln a war aggressor.
     
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    Perhaps they will appreciate opportunities opening in other industries? Last I checked there was a lot of sunlight in Texas. It could power the entire United States
     
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    You can make plastic out of milk, and crisco was originally designed as a plant based machine lubricant. Neither are a great replacement for similar oil products, merely examples that we could, in theory, get by without it.
     
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  23. LoneStarGal

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    Yep. He blew his potential win in at least a couple of states.

    Renewable markets are growing naturally. We don't need no stinking government interference adding "sin taxes" to the peoples' gasoline and electricity. France tried that and it won Macron the Yellow Vest protests.

    Markets > Government.
     
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    Let me take a wild guess...
    Republicans feel Trump won
    Democrats feel Biden won

    Same old and old
     
  25. TheImmortal

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    Ok I take it back. This was my favorite. Biden looking at his watch with about 9 minutes to go like a boxer checking the clock to see if he was going to make it out of the round.

     
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