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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Kal'Stang, Oct 22, 2020.

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  1. James California

    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ The free market will take care of new energy innovation - whatever it turns out to be. It may even be the petroleum industry itself that comes up with something.
     
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    James California, Oct 23, 2020
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  2. LoneStarGal

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    Until we have suitable substitutes, we need oil and a lot of it. We subsidize industries when their products are necessities for the functioning of society.

    We subsidize farmers too, so we can eat. When AOC (Biden's future Energy Commisioner?) decides to get rid of cow farts, should we wipe out farm subsidies because cow farts pollute?

    LOL
     
    LoneStarGal, Oct 23, 2020
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    You can call it whatever you want. Just pointing out that the Biden anti-oil policy he put on blast last night could hurt him in places that don't produce a lot of oil.
     
    Chrizton, Oct 23, 2020
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  4. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden does not like having to speak to the rabble. He never has.
    We can subsidize Americans to produce it or we can prop up and fight wars with foreign totalitarian criminal regimes that oppress and enslave their people to produce it.

    Sometimes its better to shop local and pay more...

    (oops, that was sposed to be two different posts...)
     
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  5. Lesh

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    So "socialism" is good when you approve of how it is applied. Interesting
     
    Lesh, Oct 23, 2020
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    Feel free to find a post in which I have ever championed ethanol
     
    Chrizton, Oct 23, 2020
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  7. Lesh

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    Currently oil is necessary. But we are making choices as to for how long and at what price.

    There is no debate that oil is not a long term solution. Even YOU note that a transition to renewables is needed. and inevitable
     
    Lesh, Oct 23, 2020
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  8. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep. When AOC launched the GND, the public was sticker-shocked at the Trillions of dollars cost, and said, "Nope. Too expensive. Not enough benefit."
     
    LoneStarGal, Oct 23, 2020
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    And yet that "free market" is ...read this slowly...SUBSIDIZED
     
    Lesh, Oct 23, 2020
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    And we are now learning that "trillions" is not the scary sounding word we thought it was
     
    Lesh, Oct 23, 2020
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    (original)late Banned

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    Biden often stays after an event ends to talk with people. You babble about rabble...

    We don't import much oil these days, and we do need to cut back on the carbon...
     
    (original)late, Oct 23, 2020
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    The first thing I would ask Biden here is what are you going to do with the hundred plus thousand workers you're putting out of work..... I know he doesn't actually care cause they aren't all unionized... Biden is the throwback to stupid liberal most of us thought died out already.
     
    drluggit, Oct 23, 2020
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  13. LoneStarGal

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    Yep.

    Democrats want big government to tax and take over every major industry they can get their hands on.

    Republicans want free markets in the private sectors to function naturally without government interference.
     
    LoneStarGal, Oct 23, 2020
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  14. James California

    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ There's a lot of gas coming from Capitol Hill. We should get rid of that and leave the cows alone . :fart::cynic:
     
    James California, Oct 23, 2020
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    The oil guys actually did start to get involved in alternate energy, but they didn't like long term investing when they already had quick and dirty. So they dumped the alternatives.

    So that's a nonstarter.
     
    (original)late, Oct 23, 2020
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    Yeah. Who cares if we vote in people who turn our future generations into permanent debt slaves.
     
    LoneStarGal, Oct 23, 2020
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    Why not you explain? How do you suppose that the modern conveniences are going to be delivered when there is no longer an oil industry. Do you like your computer? do you like your sippy cups from starbucks? How about this, just admit that Joe's statement was entirely stupid? Why not just try apologizing for him?
     
    drluggit, Oct 23, 2020
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    (original)late Banned

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    There is nothing natural about markets, that's one of the goofier myths.

    Almost as goofy as thinking capitalism works without "government interference".
     
    (original)late, Oct 23, 2020
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    If Trump wins re-election it shall be due to the presidential election cycle political standard . . . the economy. Or in other words, people already upset by months and months of the Left cynically pushing pandemic panic-porn and demanding an endless economic shut down are 'concerned' about both the local and national economy and are in no mood to take a chance on what they KNOW is a perpetually hostile to businesses Dem Party presidential platform.

    People are not NOW interested in Climate Change politics and Green Energy boondoggles. They are interested in seeing the economy up and roaring forward like it was during the first three years of Trump's first term, and they KNOW that no Dem Party president can dublicate that economic feat. They know that the first thing a President Biden would do as a Democrat is place his foot on the neck of the recovering economy and presssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.
     
    Gatewood, Oct 23, 2020
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    You literally don't know what you're talking about. Literally. But do answer the question slowly...
     
    drluggit, Oct 23, 2020
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    Speaking of goofy...

    Take a look at his actual plans.
     
    (original)late, Oct 23, 2020
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    We don't import because of the subsidies. Stop them and we'll need to start importing it more. We need oil and Americans won't drill it at slave wages.

    The day we don't need to burn oil will be a great day and I fully support bringing that day about. But its not going to be soon.
     
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    Biden would have us back on our knees, begging OPEC/Middle Eastern countries to please provide affordable oil. Better if we don't need those countries for our own economic survival.
     
    LoneStarGal, Oct 23, 2020
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    Uh huh. Did you ever take an Economics course?
     
    LoneStarGal, Oct 23, 2020
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    Survival of the fittest....it doesn't get any more natural than that.

    Government is evil. The less we have of it the better.
     
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