How will you cope with the November Blue Wave?

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  1. Have at it

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    For sure, let's do my field industrial maintenance technician..

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    Compared to mine.

    Inside Wireman 'A' Apprenticeship Program
    This program is a 5-year training program with standards approved in the State of Maryland, Commonwealth of Virginia, and District of Columbia. It requires that each apprentice receive a minimum 8,000 hours of on-the-job training in the electrical construction industry with the supervision of a journeyman electrician. During the course of the apprenticeship, each apprentice is transferred on a yearly basis to a new contractor. This affords the apprentice the opportunity to receive varied experiences during their apprenticeship. The Joint Apprenticeship and Training Committee makes all placements with contractors. Please read the Apprentice Statement of Polices for information on how we run the apprenticeship progam.

    While in the Training Program apprentices are required to attend 900 hours of classroom related instruction. This instruction is setup in the following manner over the 5-year period.

    During the first four years of apprenticeship, an apprentice will attend school one day, every two weeks, year round for a minimum of 23 days in a 12-month period. While attending Day School, apprentices will be taught the curriculum set in place by the Electrical Training Alliance. This Curriculum consists of the following:

    • AC THEORY
    • DC THEORY
    • JOB SAFETY
    • HISTORY OF THE IBEW AND NECA
    • BLUEPRINT READING
    • CONDUIT BENDING
    • SOLID STATE ELECTRONICS
    • DIGITAL ELECTRONICS
    • CATEGORY 5 WIRING
    • MOTOR CONTROLS
    • OPTICAL FIBER
    • FIRE ALARM AND SECURITY SYSTEMS
    • PLCs
    • TRANSFORMERS
    • NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE
    For the days that apprentices attend school and are not on the job, they receive attendance checks after successfully completing the day’s coursework. In the last year of apprenticeship, apprentices attend school one night a week from September through May. While attending night school the apprentices choose from numerous different skill improvement classes to attend. In their fifth year of apprenticeship they must take two skill improvement classes. Typical classes consist of the following:

    • CATEGORY 5 WIRING
    • FIBER OPTICS
    • NEC CODE TEST PREPARATION
    • FIRE ALARMS
    • MOTOR CONTROLS
    • TRANSFORMERS
    • GROUNDING
    • HIGH VOLTAGE CABLE SPLICING
    • ALTERNATIVE ENERGY
    • BICSI CERTIFICATIONS
    • NETWORKING
    • INDUSTRIAL POWER
    • VARIABLE FREQUENCY DRIVES
    • POWER QUALITY
    Apprentices will receive pay increases during the course of their apprenticeship based on the amount of work hours they have successfully completed in the program and successful school performance. Those raises are set in the following increments and do not show their added paid benefits:

    45% $21.31/hr. 1st Period
    Completion of 1000 hours
    47% $22.25/hr. 2nd Period
    Completion of 1000 hours and 1 year of school
    50% $23.68/hr. 3rd Period
    Completion of 1500 hours and 1 year of school
    60% $28.41/hr. 4th Period
    Completion of 1500 hours and 1 year of school
    70% $33.15/hr. 5th Period
    Completion of 1500 hours and 1 year of school
    80% $37.88/hr. 6th Period
    Completion of 1500 hours and 1 year of school
    As of June 1, 2020 the rate of pay for an individual who completes the 5-year apprenticeship program and becomes a journeyman electrician in Local Union 26 will be:

    $47.35/hr. plus
    Paid Benefits


    An apprentice who completes the apprenticeship program with the Local 26 JATC is also eligible for 60 college credits through the American Council on Education. These credits have been set up through the NJATC. The Local 26 JATC also has an articulation agreement with Montgomery College, Prince George’s County Community College, College of Southern Maryland, and Northern Virginia Community College. This would afford an individual the opportunity to work towards achieving a Bachelors degree.

    http://www.washdcjatc.org/wiremanprogram.cfm

    How much did your education cost? Mine was the opposite of cost. Not just free..but Paid. Blue state wins. Enjoy the wave.

    And you compared two separate fields...the Cali is just a janitor, the SouthCarolina is a welder.
     
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    I don't work at union shops only did one time in Chicago, back in the early 1990s, couldn't stand working there.

    My education in mold making (tool and die was free also my old company paid for it (non union shop)

    Like I said I have lived in 6 states, I am single and I love living in cheap rural areas making overtime. Then I get bored and want to go some place else I thought the west coast would pay more (in Idaho now) but they don't .
     
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    Ok, thats fine an all..But quit lying to your self about opportunity. Blue states just do it better, and pay more. After the moneys in your pocket, how you spend it or what taxes you choose to pay is a personal problem.
     
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    Not in industrial maintenance otherwise I would still be living in Chicago, why would I want to make around the same and pay for a $1,200 dollar a month appartment when I can rent a house in south Carolina for $700 bucks?
     
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    Once again..what you do with your money once you have it is what you do with it. Worry about that once you have it. Not before.
    Would you rather keep 50% of a million a year, or keep 100% of 35k a year?
     
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    A better question to ask me, would I rather live in a rat hole blue city and take two week vacations, or live24/7 in a place where people take two week vacations?

    I choose the latter
     
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    But here's the thing see. If you're one of my customers, and in Cali, I can charge $120/hr for some recessed lighting, an a fan for side work. But alternatively in your lil paradise its an issue getting you to cough up anything for basic maintenance. I just prefer where the moneys at for the time being. Not only that, there is just more work even on the industrial side.
     
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    What are you talking about? Who's talking about "investments"?

    Clearly you're trying to obfuscate the issue, and that's simply not going to work with me.

    You're asking why it matters that you need 5 times the salary to afford a house in CA than it does in MS?

    Would you like me to explain the obvious?
     
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    One can afford to pay me more for my work over another to do stuff to their house?
    Lets say in both situations you're living in your car.

    Or you talking about savings on how YOU would spend money you earn?
     
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    You're really bad at obfuscation.

    A house in CA, just by itself would require 5 times the income it would in MS.

    That's not even discussing the high cost of living taxes that hit poor people the most.
     
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    As a prolific cannabis smoker, I oppose legalisation. Don't want the regulators getting their grubby little mitts over it.
     
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    No it was the polished turd named Biden.
     
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    as opposed to the unpolished turd Trump?
     
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    The least prepared will not be the conservatives and republicans- it would be the left, the democrats, liberals, progressives who have lived in a fantasy thinking that any idea they may have must be a good one.
    They don't learn worth a damn, even from their own gross mistakes.

    All one has to do is look at California- a state run by liberals and democrats for decades. Of course it's not the only example, just the one that has itself in an advanced state of decay from it's own ignorance and incompetence. It's buried in debt, driving out the people who constitute it's tax base, has paralyzed itself with excessive and foolish regulations, is importing poverty by attracting and subsidizing illegals, has an exploding population of homeless that come both from their own people who can no longer financially survive there or homeless from other places who migrate to find milder weather, more tolerance and more subsidies. A once awesome state.... whose cities that were once jewels, now has cities where picking your path through human feces and drug needles is not just a challenge, it's killing both their tourism and their appeal as a place to live. They can't keep their infrastructure maintained. The approach of their government is such a short-sighted way that the next year brings a disaster they created this year, and they fail to see that they have shot themselves in the foot- again. The state is losing it's vast agricultural productivity because it's busy saving a minnow, and failing at that too. Homes all over are being destroyed by forest fires, because they decided it was a waste of money to maintain firebreaks and clear underbrush. It's taken some time, but the democratic management of California has proven to be an unnatural disaster of a magnitude far beyond what anyone would have conceived- and the damn fools are still making it worse, like an compulsive gambler who just can't accept that he's going to keep on losing.

    Companies large and small, wealthy and productive people- including many who were born there and have lived their all their lives- are leaving California like it was a sinking ship. For some idiotic reason, other places where dem government is in control seem to be determined to follow them.

    How do you cope with riots, looters and vandals that are supported by jackass mayors and governors? How do you cope with the drastically increasing rates of violent crime that have exploded in these places?
    There will always be justice in one form or another. If a government is so stupid as to shut down it's police, then there is no system law- but law will still exist, because the people will enforce it. Vigilante law created order our of chaos in many times when government failed.

    Thats how you cope with insanity. These people aren't wise enough to see it coming, so it will take them by surprise, like every other consequence of their incompetence.
     
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    How will you cope with the November Blue Wave?
    This is the least of all my worries and concerns.
     
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    You are still better off with $5.50 per hour than the $15. min wage here in Los Angeles. When you factor in the cost of living, the $15. per hr worker is no better off.

    I am fortunate to make a good living, but hourly workers are the most affected by our greedy, irresponsible government.

    BTW, I don't equate success with money.
     
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    There won't be a blue wave
     
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    There should never be government interference in once personal choice. Its a damn plant!
     
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    I will celebrate too!!! :):democrat:
     
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    Gardening should not be a felony.
     
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    Amen to that, brother!

    all, reverse all the environmental regs repealed, at least the important ones.

    And, a Trump crimes commission
     
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    They work and pay taxes, and their kids are taken care of on their health plans. I"m fine with it.
    No health care means children will suffer, and that's cruel.
     
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