Interesting Mail in vote status - they DO check signatures

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  1. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have our proof that the mail in system is working as intended.

    I dropped all three of our ballots, mine, husband and 22 year old son, into the PO box on Sunday.

    My husband's and my ballot have been counted. My son's has not.

    When he signed it, I said, "That doesn't look like your signature." So he told me he was changing it, and I said he needed to sign like he did when he registered. He refused. (Stubborn idiot!)

    His ballot has not been counted. I will call them tomorrow on his behalf.

    Anyway - proof that they do check the signatures on the envelopes.
     
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    Why I vote in person, my chicken-scratch looks different every time I make it.
     
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    Thanks for sharing this, @Curious Always. I requested an absentee ballot this time and I'm a new registrant in this county so both my signatures match up as I did them seconds apart. ;-) Dropping in the mail today.

    Hope everything sorts out for your son's ballot.
     
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    My signature is a mess.

    Rule #1, if you can read my signature, it was probably forged.

    Poll worker has made me sign electronically twice before but that was the year they transitioned to electronic signatures on an elevated post vs flat on a table paper with a pen.

    If this is a close election those signatures are going to be the hanging Chads in the lawsuits of 2020.
     
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    That is a big "IF".

    I don't think it will be that close.

    Biden should win easy.
     
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    Why would you call for him? Also, why would they answers ant any questions to you about someone else's ballot?

    I dont want anybody with access my ballot, certainly not my mommy.
     
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  8. Curious Always

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    He'll be here with me. He's got Asperger's.


    As to signatures - my husband's resembles something like an @ sign, and mine changes every time. I think they check the signature for likeness. I seriously doubt they have forgery experts doing this job.

    He completely changed his signature to something that doesn't even remotely resemble the first. He can't print; his eye/hand coordination sucks. He's changed his signature several times, in search of something he can continue to replicate easily throughout his life.
     
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    Good post, but why call for him? At 22, he's a grown man. I would make him fix his own mistake, especially if I had warned him ahead of time.

    My own son is 48 ... I'm so old that I feel like lying about his age. But as a single parent, he had to learn how to be an adult a bit sooner than most. He thanks me all the for making him learn how to cook, do laundry, and keep a budget at a tender age.

    I voted by drop box last week. My ballot has been approved, certified and ready to count. It's all online.

    The right just keeps bringing this up because Trump says "absentee voting, good ... mail-in voting, bad" like theres a difference. It's pathetic.
     
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    That really is a very smug looking kitty. Cute!
     
  11. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He has Aspberger's. He has no ability to do administrative type tasks. He'll be here with me. Once I get through the phone tree, to a person, and explain what's going on, I'll put him on the phone to take it from there.
     
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    In which case, I apologize profusely for my previous post. I was arrogant and rude, so sorry!
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nah - I should have put a brief qualifier. :) In my real life, I just say these things to friends and there is no explanation needed. It's just routine for us.
     
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    how do you know counted, we have no way to know here, that is why I go in

    they will probably make him go in with ID, as you could be anyone in their eyes

    be interesting to see if they contact him, or just don't count it, as that could create fraud, people tossing signatures of people that "vote" wrong
     
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    When we sent in the request to get a ballot, we had to sign.

    When we send it back, we put it in that folded privacy paper and then into an envelope. Then we sign the outside.

    Someone verifies the signature on the outside and then updates the website that the ballot was counted. We just log in where we check our voting information and it's there.

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    How do you know yours is counted when you vote in person?

    I know mine is counted because I dropped it in the box last week, and a mere two days latter the online tracking service told me that it had been received, verified, and approved for counting, and in Colorado they start counting two weeks out, so mine has already been counted.

    Does your state's in person process give you that feedback?
     
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    In Oregon, if there is any such question or anomaly in a ballot, they CALL the voter to get it corrected or find whether there is reason to be concerned.
     
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    You don't have a login to check??? That should be automatic! It should be a major point of objection about your election rules!

    In Oregon we can check. I just did. My ballot was received 4 days ago. And later I can check to see that it was counted.
    https://secure.sos.state.or.us/orestar/vr/showVoterSearch.do
     
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    they should have that in every state
     
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    we put ours into the scanner ourselves and if it rejects it we know right then and can fix it
     
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    What state do you live in?
     
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    Oh if you are in Pennsylvania tell him not to worry, the signatures don't have to match.

    "Mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania cannot be rejected because the voter’s signature doesn’t match the one on file, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court declared Friday, ensuring that more votes will be counted in a crucial battleground state and undermining potential GOP efforts to have mail-in ballots—which are predominantly being cast by Democrats—thrown out and invalidated."
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alison...ures-court-rules-in-blow-to-gop/#79c358324825

    So why require a signature at all? If the ballot arrives no check just count them all. Where does the PSC think it gets the authority to usurp the plenary power of the state legislature to set the rules and dates of an election?
     
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    And your ballot with your name attached is placed in the hands of an election official not in your presence.
     
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    I assume it's bi-partisan, and, we do not sign the ballot. Our ballot is placed in the privacy folder, just like at the polling place, and put inside the envelope, which is signed.

    I assume the person doing the administrative tasks piles the ballots for someone else to process. Their job is to validate the signature, open the envelope and update the website.

    Everything so far has been done impeccably. I'm not sure why they'd go to all that trouble, just to blow it during the last step.

    Do you really imagine either party would approve of this process, if only one person was in charge of receiving, validating signatures, updating the website, and tallying each ballot? I'm going with no.

    I'm sure at every step along the way, there is a hyper-partisan from each team verifying there are no shenanigans.
     
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    What state? As I said a judge in Pennsylvania has ruled the sigs don't have to match so what is the point in signing them and again your ballot's chain of handling is not longer from you to a vote tallying machine but from you to a postal worker, through several more postal workers to a government office where you package with your name and sig on it is opened and the ballot your filled out is in the hands of election office employees and out of your control.

    No thank you I will go to my civic center walk in ID myself, received a blank ballot which will never be associated with me and never out of my hand until it is talled.
     

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