This election is NOT about Biden.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, Oct 22, 2020.

  1. TheImmortal

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    This election IS about Biden.
     
  3. Junkieturtle

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    I too believe Biden is a good man, for the most part. On that point there is no room for doubt when compared to somebody like Trump.

    But the question remains on whether or not he has partaken in corruption. The evidence does not look good, at least at the moment. So at the end of the day, if you're voting for Biden, who may be corrupt, in order to vote against Trump, who is also corrupt, you're still voting for corruption.

    I do understand why you're voting for Joe. But you risk your credibility to the same toilet that Trump supporters flushed theirs down four years ago.

    I think it's an easy cycle to fall into, the "you must vote against that evil by supporting a different evil". It's why I decided in 2012 that I'm just not going to play that game with my vote anymore. If we all did it, we could be rid of this self-imposed restriction to two political parties that we sway back and forth with. Maybe we could strip the parties of some of their power. There has to be a better way than having this juggling match back and forth, on and on, and that better way has to start somewhere.
     
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    That you ignore how bad trump is your welcome.
     
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    What Democrat has a good heart?
     
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    I didn't watch the debate tonight now however after this it would seem Biden really really stank up the place.
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    So you are not voting for Trump?

    I mean, you seem to be concerned about corruption.
     
  8. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Which son of Trump's had a son in Iraq?

    Or, are you being sarcastic?
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You said the evidence doesn't look good.

    What evidence might that be?
     
  10. Professor Peabody

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    WOW! :roll:
     
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    Do they allow their schools to even mention such a concept exists?
     
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    It's about Biden and his 47 years of selling the US to China for gain enjoyed by his family and, through a money laundering scheme, for his own gain. Obama-Biden even launched the Eco Health Alliance project that funded research at Wuhan that ended in the global COVID spread.

    The funding, BTW, came from Fauci's lab.

    Without the sale of the US to China orchestrated by Biden, a virus created in China would have passed us by. Without the Obama-Biden-Fauci project at Wuhan, COVID would never have been fabricated. The 3 of them have blood on their hands.
     
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    A comment based on opinion and not on facts.

    Based on what has been found on the laptop so far, 6 different felonies are identified. And they are only through a quarter of the material.
     
  14. Gatewood

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    Actually with the surfacing of hunter's laptop and ALL his former business partners ratting on both Hunter and the 'Big Guy' (Joe Biden) it suddenly IS about Joe Biden . . . at least where genuine political independents are concerned.
     
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    This is now totally about Joe. (And Harris is listed and linked to some of the e-mails on the laptop as well, going as far back as 2017)

    SPECIAL COUNSEL level corruption is on the table.
     
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    Interesting way to run away from who and what Biden is. Might as well be Charles Manson I guess. The Trump haters would still vote for him.
     
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    Quid Pro Quo Joe dropped out?

    As long as he's running for president this election IS about him and his crazy party.
     
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    Trump now has got so much ammunition to use against Joe Biden that it's almost embarrasing. I bet Hillary Clinton is cackling off camera and muttering . . . "What about it DNC, do you miss me now?"
     
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    i have only decided on 1 thing--not voting for Joe. Anybody who enables a kiddie porn relative is never ever getting my support.

    Whether I vote for POTUS and, if so, for whom, remains to be seen. I can do Trump, the Libertarian or a write-in
     
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    The apple didn't fall far from the tree, did it?

     
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    Quotes don't change results. Dem control equals poverty. Our homeless are mostly locals. There is no such narrative saying "CA causes homelessness" but there is one claiming that Democrats in power makes the less fortunate better off. That is false along with many other claims, for example:

    Democrats care about the environment. California also leads in pollution and is home to some of the most toxic beaches. While democrats commute in their single occupancy vehicles, dump tons of pesticides/herbicides on their property, and receive their daily Amazon packages containing items made overseas by unregulated polluting countries, in a nice box that came from destroying forests. Of course, they stop at In and Out burger on their way home so they can support another industry responsible for polluting our planet.

    Dems don't care about the poor, the environment, or public health. Its about power.
     
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    Wow talk about desperation....this is how you think your gonna get Biden elected?

    Dude has been in Washington for nearly fifty years....this is all about Biden
     
  23. Doofenshmirtz

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    Democrats vote for higher taxes to help the less fortunate and the environment.

    If high taxes created a thriving society and a clean environment, I would be a Democrat.
     
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    No. Free thought and expression are discouraged.
     
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    With the current environment it’s a tough cycle to be an incumbent. Likely the worst environment since Hoover.

    No matter how much they try to make it about the ‘other’ people’s attention will turn back to the environment simply because they can’t escape it.

    This cycle is definitely a referendum on incumbents.
     

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