Does anyone actually have evidence?

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    That story has been debunked, too many times to list here. You need to pay attention.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    NyPost is not a reliable source. At mediabiasfactcheck.com it's rating is comparable to CNN, but on the right.
    So, if you assert that CNN is 'fake news', for the same reason, you must also say that of Nypost, the ratings are practically
    identical though on the right.

    If you want to get into a pissing contest on which family has committed the most sins, Trump will win.

    So, your concern over such matters means you will not be supporting Trump.

    I mean, you wouldn't want anyone on this forum to conclude you are a hypocrite, right?
     
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    The silence is evidence. Neither Snopes or Politifact have ruled the story to be false. No denials by the FBI or DHS. No newspaper story proving it is wrong. Generally no newspaper stories at all. The silence is deafening. All we have is protests and denials out of the left. By this time the media should be jumping all over this to either prove it right or wrong.
     
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    Biden said what he said, what's to debunk?
     
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    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bobulinski was not a former partner of Hunter's?

    You can deny all you like, but the facts won't lie for your benefit.
     
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    Denial is all they have left.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    How about this one?
    Barack Obama publicly endorsed presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden — but has privately expressed grave concerns about his former veep’s 2020 White House run, a report said.

    Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f–k things up,”
     
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    All news is a feeding frenzy. The only difference is the food!
     
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    The funny thing is that I just read a Yahoo News article claim to be a Fact Check. It claimed that Biden was pushing US international policy, and rooting out corruption. What they failed to mention was that the US international policy comes from the President, (so that means that Trump was also pushing international policy), and that the Inspector that Biden wanted to have removed was the one rooting out corruption in Ukraine. The fact that the EU wanted him gone had nothing to do with corruption as they have claimed. It has everything to do with the fact that Investigator was putting a crimp on Bursima's activities. Bursima Holding is one of the chief suppliers of Natural Gas to the Eastern European Members of the EU.

    The fact that they Yahoo article avoided was that then VP Biden personally met with the Bursima Exec in Washington. Then went to Ukraine and threatened to withhold $1 Billion in US Aid if the Investigator was not fired. So far, Obama has not been linked to that threat. So, was Biden pushing US international policy, or his own personal agenda.
     
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    Does anyone actually have evidence?
    When did this suddenly become a requirement for anything left, Democrat, or liberal??? Or is it just popping up because of unliked Republican assertions?
     
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    One of the best parts about watching the left scramble is how they deny this could POSSIBLY be an October Surprise in the sense of some classic political-kamikaze move which thrills cynics and dismays the recipients.

    What! --- documented proof that Joe Biden's son was bag man shaking down people for access to Biden and any alleged influence he might possibly wield, for the right price...? Unthinkable! I love how their sniveling has gotten up to Boeing 787 takeoff volume.

    The proof is in the FBI's hands. Now what happens besides the left ignores the obvious?

    They want us to ignore the contents of emails --- one of which ALREADY shows Hunter Biden was paying 50% of his earnings to Joe Biden....the Big Guy in those messages.

    They want us to ignore that a reported half of all those thousands of photos of underage girls on Hunter's PC were of his 14-year-old cousin. These photos were reportedly a mixture of dressed but suggestive poses, semi-dressed, and (one report only, still unconfirmed) of totally nude.

    It's an uncomfortable bunch of both photos and emails as well, the financial proof the FBI was seeking of a money-laundering scheme begun in 2019. The PC is filed by the FBI as part of that investigation.

    Under Delaware law mere possession of those nude, semi-nude and suggestive clothed pictures would NORMALLY be clear evidence of contributing to the delinquency of a minor, if not possible proof of child molestation (should the photos he was in with her prove even more damning than already reported).

    Normally. Biden's home turf is Delaware. Which makes it delicious how fast the Delaware state cops sent that computer to the FBI rather than see an evidence-locker book-keeping incident where that PC cannot be found. It's like Jeffrey Epstein's black book, so hot it burned right through an inch of iron decking.

    The Dems also had this strange way of denying reality that the Hillary emails on Carlos Danger's phone had any bearing on anything whatsoever. This was the guy who did a Jeffrey Toobin before Jeffrey was tubin'.
     
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    If this were court case the available evidence would be allowed. That evidence includes the text of emails and the explanation of the details in those emails from the recipient. Perfectly admissible evidence. But not good enough for you apparently.
     
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    The practical difficulty is that there is no prima facie evidence that Hunter committed any crime. The illusive and complex crime of money laundering carries a heavy burden for the FBI. The lewd pictures, if they can be proven to be porn and were in Hunter's solid possession is much easier since mere possession is a crime. It is also very difficult, as horrendous of an act it was, to find any actual law that Biden broke. I might be wrong but AFAIK there isn't an actual statute that says a president cannot profit from his position other than emoluments from foreign or state leaders.
     
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    What do you make of this?

     
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    It pretty much fits my post, IMO.
     
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    How many fake Hungarian scandals will it take before Republicans do a Benghazi and give up.
     
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    Not yet. If there is any justice left in this country there should be one soon. Hell rumors I'm hearing if confirmed would net anyone on this board several years in jail and that doesn't include the damning emails.
     
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    Sounds like you support a failed party with failed leadership then.
    If Hunter did anything, there will be a trial.
    Trumps impeachment was not in the democrats, or the medias hands. It was out of everyones hands, due to dumb crap Trump did. Trump had all that evidence against him, so it resulted in an impeachment..if hunter has evidence stack up against him then there will be a trial end of story.
     
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    Why give up when the truth is right there to be examined? How much money moved from where to where, and when, by whom? Did Joe Biden receive a split of that money, at some bank account he forgot to list on his taxes? These things can now be checked. But by whom?

    The FBI had physical possession of the laptop for some time. Did they actually use it in ANY connection with a money-laundering investigation --- or was it a way to mis-file the item so it got lost in the evidence room?

    Why the year's delay until it came to light now? Christopher Wray running interference at every step. Until somebody let the story get out they had that computer after all. Now the FBI has to explain why they didn't do anything with it until now. My guess though is they won't. "Ongoing investigation," don'tcha know.
     
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    Why start when you know it's fake..
     
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    The videos are now out on the internet. The emails are coming out bit by bit as well. Sorry. Biden pere and fils are both crooks.
     
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    If the narrative is controlled by liberals, why is so much attention focused on specious accusations regarding the Biden's?

    How Trump abandoned his pledge to ‘drain the swamp’

    "On a Friday evening in late September, President Trump huddled with high-dollar donors, lobbyists and corporate executives in a private room at the hotel he owns in Washington, where attendees took turns pitching the president on their pet issues.

    Trump was there to raise big money for his reelection effort. The price of admission: as much as $100,000 per person to get in the door.

    One attendee’s plea on behalf of an obscure railway project in Alaska in need of federal approval appeared to get immediate results.
    Just after midnight, mere hours after the campaign fundraiser, Trump tweeted that it was his “honor to inform you that I will be issuing a Presidential Permit for the A2A Cross-Border rail.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...c7682c-0a5a-11eb-9be6-cf25fb429f1a_story.html

    Among the many laughable claims Capt. Clorox made on the campaign trail in 2016, #DTS has reached the level of hilarity. It was designed as cover with the gullible rubes for what would be, and still is, the most corrupt admin since Grant. What better way to dupe The Following that personally profiting from the office was somehow okay because the Grifter-in-Chief was draining the swamp. It was a slight of hand only a professional conman could pull off.

    The firm that once employed Trump’s pick to run Interior is making millions lobbying it
    Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck has quadrupled its business since David Bernhardt joined the Interior Department in 2017.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/clim...-run-interior-is-making-millions-lobbying-it/

    After all, you don't get elected prez after your crowning achievement was playing the role of a fictional executive on TV by being a second rate huckster. Don is the best. What else explains how he has orchestrated attention away from things like price gouging while insisting government employees stay at his properties and instead on disproven claims of corruption by his election opponent? Well, other than help from the Murdoch's that is.

    "Ever since he first took office, President Donald Trump has been charged with using his position to profit off the presidency, as foreign leaders stay at Trump Organization properties while the president himself ferries back and forth to the “winter White House” and Trump properties around the world. And while the Trump administration has been understandably cagey about just how much taxpayer money is funneling into the Trump Organization’s pockets, we now have a somewhat better idea when it comes to one major charge. Following reports earlier this year that the Trump Organization has charged the Secret Service as much as $650 a night to stay at Trump properties when accompanying the president, the Washington Post reported Thursday that those hefty hotel bills have so far added up to nearly a million dollars—at least."
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    Report: Taxpayers Have Paid the Trump Organization Nearly $1 Million for Hotel Rooms Alone
    Eric Trump has claimed that the Trump Organization lets the government stay at their properties “for free”—but records of the federal government’s hotel costs prove otherwise.
    [​IMG] www.vanityfair.com

    Karl Rove pioneered the idea of accusing your political rival of the thing you have the most liability for. It's why the chicken hawk coward known as Shrub, who didn't even finish the cushy gig his dad got for him with the ANG, ended up assassinating the character of a war hero.
     
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    Problem is that any half-way decent lawyer could get the laptop excluded from any trail because it was out of Hunter's position for an extended period of time,
    and in the hands of a third party, not law enforcement. And the store owner obviously was able to access the hard drive or he wouldn't have known to turn it over to Guiliani. And if he can access the hard drive, then he can alter the hard drive. Chain of evidence was broken. Just say'n.
     
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    That same logic could be applied to virtually anything submitted as evidence in a trial. "That diary was in the possession of Joe Blow for ten years before the police took possession". The jury would decide.
     
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    The problem is the FBI had that PC for a year and did nothing until Rudy et al., got it unearthed.

    The FBI needs a complete restructuring and 100% replacement of anyone higher than gate guard. Christopher Wray needs firing if not actual prison for malfeasance.
     

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