Trump brags and we Republicans admit he brags

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Does Trump brag?

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In this poll we examine the public belief about things Trump says.

    Bragging in other words.

    I say as one example of his bragging is, the time on the bus when he bragged the girls let him.

    So was that bragging or did the Girls let him?
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    Trump brags and we Republicans admit he brags
    I'm not so concerned that Trump brags. But I AM concerned about how often he lies. With all his lying, Trump becomes a threat to the nation rather than a trustworthy leader of it.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I find it strange that you allege his lying is a danger to the nation yet you refused to include even one of those dangerous items you cajoled us over.

    For instance, I can name a very serious lie told by FDR when he was president. He said the Attack on Pearl Harbor was a sneak attack when in truth he planned for them to attack us. This is documented by the way. Navy Commander McCollumb I believe the name is Correct had delivered to FDR from Tokyo the plan. Then we had Japanese on our own staffs loyal to America who war gamed that attack around January 1941.
     
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    I'm not pretending Presidents don't lie to us. We could probably find instances where any President you want to examine has lied about something or other at one time or another. But Trump isn't normal with his lying. Trump either can't distinguish between his lies & the truth, or he simply doesn't care. Fact checkers found that on the last debate between Trump & Biden, Trump stated misinformation (lies) 189 times. Trump lies so often we can no longer trust anything he says. Every statement has to be fact checked before we accept it as accurate. That's no type of person to be electing to the Presidency of the U.S. I question the IQ & the integrity, & the patriotism of anyone who feels it's OK to vote for Trump. Any voter who does cannot have the best interests of this nation in mind.
     
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    I agree perhaps they think white supremacy is in the best interests of the nation. Whatever reason could there be for voting for Trump. I would dare say that 90 % of Trump voters are hard core racists.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    And who does the fact checking? I've looked over some of those fact checkers. They do an awful lot of misrepresentation themselves. And I'm not the only one to notice.

     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Got any evidence for your claim here? Or is this just a "feeling"?
     
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    Democrats think Trump lies a lot because the media tells them to think that Trump lies a lot.

    Republicans know that Biden lies a lot because there is video after video over decades of Biden being a lying establishment politician, contradicting himself and flip-flopping. How 'bout that fracking, huh? Is Biden for it or against it? Depends on what day you ask and which audience he's pandering to that day. Same goes for Kamala, lying about policy positions depending on what's popular today.

    Then Democrats try to shame Republicans for voting for a liar. That's the funniest and most absurd part in its sheer hypocrisy.

    Trump doesn't have any filter between his brain and his mouth. He may be wrong sometimes, but he's about the most transparent president we've ever had. You don't have to guess where he stands, and he rarely changes his stance...unlike Biden who will blatantly deny something he said just a day earlier.

    Yes, on the bragging. ;)
     
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    90% of us? That statement says a WHOLE lot about YOU.
     
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    Authoritarian rulers world wide go out of the way to spread distrust of the press & any political opponents or their party. Trump fits right into that description. Sounds like you're a willing supporter of those activities. I say they weaken our country & subvert its people. The greatest liar in public office today is Trump himself. He's lied so often & about so many things, I question every word out of his mouth. I don't want a President that I feel that way about. I hope we make a complete correction Nov 3.
     
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    The fact that Trump began his campaign descending the escalator, making unsupported claims that all Mexican immigrants were criminals, rapists & murderers, coupled with the fact that he's supported white supremist groups throughout his term, makes it obvious that anyone who continues supporting him must agree with his extremism & racism.
     
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    Distrust in media was falling long before Trump came along. Obama himself went after and had a reporter arrested and his contacts searched just so he could try and find out who leaked information to that reporter. Trump just talks about the media. Big difference wouldn't you say?

    In any case the media couldn't be subverted if they didn't continually spread lies, spins, and half truths. I'll bet you didn't even watch that video that I put in my post did you? That is a Canadian lawyer. Not just some schmuck that doesn't know anything. And he has no dog in the fight between left v right in this country.
     
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    Trump was talking about drug dealers and human trafficking coyotes...he didn't call Mexicans criminals and rapists. If you don't know that by now, you don't really follow politics, or you are intentionally perpetuating the lie. But why not perpetuate a lie? Joe Biden is perpetuating the lie and he is your party's leader.

    Trump has denounced white supremacists and hate groups multiple times. Again, just because Biden is lying about Trump doesn't mean you have to follow like a sheep. There are plenty of videos with Trump denouncing white supremacy.

    The most notable white supremacists in the country have moved to the Democrat party where they belong. They're endorsing Biden and the DNC who love to segregate people by skin color.
     
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    Underlined: False. That is how the media spun it. But if you actually listened to the whole context he was talking about MS-13. He never once said "all Mexican immigrants were criminals, rapists & murderers".

    Bold: He has not once supported white supremist groups. Another lie spread by the media to make you believe that he's racist. In fact he has denounced white supremists through out much of his adult life, even before he ran for President.



    Yet no matter how many times Trump denounces white supremacy and rejects their vote the leftist media continues to ask him about it and continually claims he's racist.

    You're being fed a pack of lies. And because of your blind hatred or partisanship (your choice of which one, or both) you refuse to see through the lies that the media spins for you.
     
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    Trump was never called a racist before he ran for president....as a Republican.

    Conversely, Biden wrote a crime bill that still has black men sitting in jail decades later for minor drug crimes. Kamala locked up more minorities than any other D.A. in California's history.

    Racist Biden and Misandrist Harris haven't done black men any favors.

    Black men are moving toward Trump, so of course Democrats have to call Trump a racist while calling black men Uncle Toms and "not black".



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    The DNC has shifted from the liberal Party of Tolerance to the authoritarian Party of Liars and Race Baiters over the years. Everyone should know that by now.
     
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    No.

    You can pretend that Trump didn't have a history before he became President. That Trump didn't cheat on his wives. That Trump didn't lie
    to his sub-contractors about his solvency. That Trump didn't lie about the prospects for University students or where donations to
    his charity were going (both shut down by legal actions).

    So just pretend that Trump is an angel, who has treated the women he loves with respect, and that he has never flip-flopped, never said
    he would be too busy to play golf, never shafted a sub-contractor ... just live in denial.

    Whatever.
     
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    I don't recall anyone ever calling Trump an angel. He most definitely has his share of sins.
     
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    Then why do people suddenly believe everything he says? It's antithetical to Trump's history.
    Why suddenly believe him over all the people surrounding him who have come forward with stories of his lies? People on his own staff.
     
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    Never called him an angel. He's simply far more straightforward and above board than Joe Biden. Trump has not wavered from his promises while in office, and has done more than promised, including advancing the Middle East and Israel to multiple peace agreements. Biden would have us back in endless wars.

    We know what Trump will do in office.

    Who knows with Biden? If you need fracking for job security, Joe is for fracking. If you are opposed to fracking to "save the planet", Joe is against fracking. Joe doesn't think voters deserve to know if he'll pack the courts until after the election. Joe doesn't want voters to know what he will do in office.

    Ex-wives and a few rounds of golf don't outweigh policy positions, promises and ability to work hard toward those promises in my book.

    Biden is the "promise you anything you want to hear" establishment elite politician who Americans don't trust, for good reason.

    So, just admit that you don't like border security, lower market prices for health care without government's high cost of interference/control, peaceful sovereign relations in foreign affairs, and jobs here instead of in China.
     
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    I don't. Before believing ANYONE I do my own research to the validity of what is being said. Doesn't matter what is said or who says it. I'm not some sort of lemming. For instance I don't deny the fact that he has cheated on his wives. I don't deny that he has declared bankruptcy leaving many people without being paid what they should have been paid. I don't deny the fact that Trump has been sued lots of times and lost several cases against him. And many other things.

    That doesn't mean that everything he says is a lie. Certainly not to the degree that so many left leaning media folks like to portray. Nor do I deny the good that he has done through out his life. For instance winning the Ellis Island Award. Do you want to know how Snopes portrays that bit of information? A "fact checker" site? They claim it as true but goes on to say...

    SNOPES Link: Did Donald Trump Receive an Ellis Island Award in 1986?

    That bold part is based on nothing more than the author's opinion. Not factual at all. It is spin meant to cast doubt on whether or not Trump is a racist. A true fact checking site would have presented the question being asked (in this case: Did Donald Trump Receive an Ellis Island Award in 1986?) and simply stated true or false and given the date that he received the award on and any other pertinent factual detail. It wouldn't have gone on to try and cast doubt as to why he received the award and make a side comment about Hillary also having gotten it. (afaik Hillary wasn't called racist so why even include it?)

    You've got to be able to weed out opinion from fact and useless rhetoric from what is being talked about.
     
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    I tried watching your video but it wouldn't play for me. I don't deny some elements of the press lie. Elements of every human organization lies. Trump lies--constantly. But that doesn't mean EVERY member of the press lies. There are some reporters with high integrity & honesty, that care deeply about being accurate & honest. The same is true for many government workers, or any other profession you wish to name. Losing confidence in all our press corps over a few bad apples, is illogical & dangerous. Losing faith in our government because of a few bad apples, is equally wrong. Be more discriminating; more observant; more accepting; less judgmental; less rigid. Care more about America & Americans, & care less about their differences. We're all in this national canoe together.
     
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    2 things about the bolded. You're right, to a degree. It's the only reason that I still watch it on occasion. However those people are not the ones in charge and they have to follow the dictates of those that are in charge or they will be "canceled". There are those in the media that are discontented with how those in charge are running things. That has been shown. But they are also the same ones that don't have a say in what is put out.

    Underlined: Your statement here is contradictory to a degree. For instance how can you be "more discriminating" while at the same time "more accepting"? And how can you make the claim about "care more about America & Americans" when Trump supporters wave American flags while those that hate him often are seen burning American flags? I also don't see Trump supporters trying to shut down liberal speakers anywhere near as much as I see Trump haters trying to shut down conservative speakers simply because of their differences in opinions.

    As for being more observant...In this same thread I pointed out how Snopes, a "fact checker" couldn't just state the facts. They had to add in opinion to spin things to where its easier to call Trump racist and add in useless rhetoric that had nothing to do with the question at hand. I don't see that coming from Trump haters. At least not when it comes to anything negative about Trump. They will do it when its something positive about him though. For instance when the NYTimes changed a headline because it portrayed Trump in a possible good light. The original title was "Trump Urges Unity vs Racism"...they changed it to "Assailing hate but not guns". You can look that up if you want.
     
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    Its not the bragging, its the constant sociopathic lying.
     
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    If it were just “bragging” many could forgive him but it crosses the line to outright dishonesty

    Take golf. Trump has boated he has a better handicap than many professionals but witnesses have seen him cheat

     
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