Biden has a much better chance than than Hillary!!

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden has a much better chance at winning, than Hillary.

    here's why.

    #1. Economy is in bad shape. Incumbent Presidents almost always do poorly in an election when the economy is doing bad.

    #2. Very low approval rating. Trump's approval rating is 42.6%.

    #3. Many people are VERY unhappy with the way Trump has been handling Covid.

    #3. Hillary has been hated by tens of millions of people, for more than 16 years before the election. Biden has no such baggage.

    #4. Hillary lost millions of votes to Third-Party spoilier Jill Stein, especially in the Rustbelt states. Biden has no such competition.

    #5. Trump is no longer an unknown. Millions gave him a chance to see what he would do, and now they know. We know what he says, what he does, what he thinks. Oy vey.

    #6. Biden is not under FBI investigation. Hillary was.

    #7. TONS of mail-votes. 51 million votes have already been cast, and we have more than a week till the election. These votes are overwhelmingly Democrat.


    All these things combined, may be just enough to give Biden the tiny edge he needs to win.


    Currently, all things staying the same, I believe Biden will win, but not by much.
     
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    What makes you say that?

    I'm starting to believe it may become a blowout.
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At least Hillary had her own agenda so she had that going for her. Joe Biden not so much, an empty suit proffering socialism and the Green New Deal with $10.00 a gallon gasoline.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i stated so in the OP
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    hahaha!!!!

    he opposes the Green New Deal and Medicare for All.
     
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    The only thing I bet on is my pair of loaded dice, politics not so much.
     
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    Now that is pitiful.

    1] Even the Left were worried about Trump's vigorous economy prior to THEM demanding that the nation be economically shut down when the Kung-flu struck. The nation knows what happened to the economy and they are NOT blaming Trump.

    2] Trump's approval is much higher than 42% and once again the polling returns are closing up . . . just as so many of us predicted would be the case.

    3] Few people are swallowing the Left's political propaganda that he is any way responsible for COVID-19.

    4] Biden is not popular. He barely squeaked through the primaries and only 'won' because the DNC told the other contestants that he WAS going to be their nominee. Remember how they all suddenly conceeded defeat like obediently falling dominoes.

    5] What cost Hillary was her corruption and the recent discovery of Hunter's laptop and Joe's designation as the 'Big Guy' is costing Joe.

    6] Joe might as well be under FBI investigation since the surfacing of Hunter Biden's laptop and Joe's designation as the 'Big Guy.'

    7] Nobody yet knows who was voted for in the mail in voting and -- gasp! -- the voting is not remotely over yet . . . oh and according to the polling that so many of our Political Left TRUST, Florida seems to be going for Trump.

    All in all, it's looking like Biden is in trouble, and that Trump is looking better and better. But thanks for asking.
     
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    I believe the majority are sick and tired of Trump. While I understand one shouldn't count their chickens before they hatch, it sure looks like Trump is gonna lose Bigley.
     
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    Actually Trump lost more votes to Johnson than Hillary did to Jill Stein. Three times as many votes. So number 4 doesn't apply. Biden certainly isn't as disliked as Hillary was, that is true. Especially among independents which gave Trump the White House. The rest are pretty much right on.

    You have completely different dynamics at work this election vs. 2016. Whereas Hillary Clinton was the well known insider with Trump the unknown outsider, the roles are reversed even though Biden has been in Washing for almost his entire life. If change was wanted in 2016, Hillary campaigned as Obama third term, change is once again wanted. Also Trump obnoxious personality and childish behavior has had 4 years to grate on folks. It was novel back in 2016, unique. It has become tiresome this year. Especially for independents who expect a president, well a president to act presidential and not like some third grade schoolyard bully.

    Hillary made a huge mistake letting Trump both outwork and out campaign her. Biden may be doing the same, but with the pandemic, it's not really a mistake. Besides, as you pointed out, 51 million people have already voted. There's no changing their ballot or who they voted for. So this isn't a normal election where campaigning is expected. Another big difference is back in 2016, there were still 15% of the electorate stating they were undecided or voting third party, this year that group is down to 7%.

    I think as long as Biden continues to act like the adult in the room vs. Trump four year old spoiled brat tactics of name calling and throwing temper tantrums, he pretty much has this locked down. One other thing, Biden has been at or near the 50% mark, a point up, a point down since May. Hillary never rose above 45% in the polls. Even electoral college wise, Biden has a 7 point lead in Michigan, a 5 point lead in Pennsylvania, 6 points in Wisconsin, the three deciding states. In North Carolina, Arizona and Florida, Biden has a slight lead of 2-3 points. Still within the margin of error, still rating those three states as tossups. Perhaps the shocker is Biden is tied with Trump in Georgia and Texas. I think few expect Biden to win those two states, but the fact he's tied with Trump, speaks volumes.

    Now if you noticed, these are all states Trump won in 2016, there's isn't a single state Hillary won where Trump is ahead or Biden is in trouble. As a Georgian, I think Biden will win my home state. It'll be darn close, but I think Biden will win Georgia. I'll end this on that note.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    interesting analysis.

    thank you
     
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    And he doesn't want to do away with fracking or coal mining either. I heard it from his own lips, lol.
     
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    Another Fl. county turns red... Screenshot 2020-10-25 at 4.41.39 PM.png
     
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    Of course he has a better chance! He's the LEFT'S favorite kind of human...OLD, MALE and WHITE

    The party of "diversity" had their whole pick of the litter, blacks, an asian, a gay man and plenty of women and what did they end up with?
     
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    I will warn you all for the last time until Election Day. These polls that you’re relying on ROUTINELY oversample democrats and undersample republicans and independents. They usually do so anywhere from 5-9points. While Gallup tells us there are more republicans than democrats. We also know that republicans are twice as likely to purposefully lie on surveys than democrats are.

    Trust the polls at your own peril.
     
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    #1 according to all polls between 50 and 56% believe that they are better off than they were 4 years ago... That's today, in the middle of the pandemic.
    #2 above 50% in Rasmussen. While I take it with a grain of salt I also have zero trust in polls commissioned by ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/CNBC, they would not pay for polls contradicting their lies and agenda
    #4 was debunked by perotista
    #5 cuts both ways, millions who did not vote for Trump (i.e he is not a real conservative) love his accomplishments and policies, a lot of reluctant Trump 2016 voters are super-enthusiastic ones now
    #6 hmm, this my friend is wishful thinking - the Hunter's laptop, emails.. this is a real problem for Biden
    #7 the Dems are underperforming in early vote, their margins are not what they need to be to not be overcome by the Republican tsunami on November 3rd. Especially in battle ground states

    #25 the Republicans have registered hundreds of thousands more new members in battleground states than the democrats have
    #26 Shy Trump vote (don't tell me it does not exist, I am one)
    #27 Growing support of Trump by blacks and Hispanics that even mainstream media does not deny
    #100 ENTHUSIASM FOR TRUMP IS THROUGH THE ROOF, HIGHER THAN IT WAS IN 2016

    :)
     
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    Barring anything completely unforseen, the most logical prediction (based on readily available evidence) of Biden's EV Total is between 290 and 335.

    With 290 as Biden's Absolute FLOOR.

    But, obviously carrying states like Iowa and Ohio could push Biden north of 335.
     
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    Based on enthusiasm, Trump is looking good.
     
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    Biden's ceiling is currently at 262.

    Trump could carry upwards of 326.
     
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    Hey, whatever you have to tell yourself to get through the day to deal with the train wreck you voted for in 2016.
     

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