UNITED OR DISUNITED AMERICA

I would like to see the constitution be more restrictive of government to be sure. I would support rewriting it as long the trusted, wise noble and educated people were not involved in government and were not lawyers. They could have political hacks and lawyers provide input for them but have no final input into the document. For me there isn't much trust or nobility in those folks.

 

No there isn't but you would think with thousands of examples we would know better, sigh.

 

UNITED OR DISUNITED AMERICA
The question is gradually becoming more complex over time. But one crucial step we can take now to alleviate much of its impact, is to vote for Biden & enough Democratic Senators to take control of the Senate. Another help would be to convert as many state legislatures to Democratic control as possible. I say this because Trumpism & Trump's control of the Republican Party, with his strong tendency toward believing & spreading conspiracy theories, racism, hatred of anyone who dares have a different perspective, and science, is now a danger to the U.S. as a government & as a nation. Trump & Trumpism has to go. Then those caught in Trump's conspiracy webs need to reevaluate their views in light of the facts, & hopefully rejoin society in a healthy way again. We've experienced far too much division from Trump & his minions. We need to reunite our people & our country.

 

Sure, join the democrats if you are for tax paid abortions, open borders, defunding the police, shutting down petroleum products, higher taxes, government run health care, food stamps for illegals, free college for illegals, tearing down our statues, burning, looting, stealing, defunding the military, eliminating the electoral college, eliminating gun ownership, freeing felons from prison, making drugs legal, and protecting criminals with sanctuary cities. Then we can all be reunited.

 

Essentially we’re on the precipice of a new era and being bombarded by dooms day scenarios from the power brokers of the dying era that capture the imagination of the fearful.

How do we resolve the issues we’re facing?

That’s an exciting question. Focusing on the resolutions rather than the perceived inadequacies of the other fosters the adaptive innovations that will sustain us. We’ve always had the ability to answer the questions if not the focus. That focus is where leadership comes into play.

Attempting to recreate the past won’t move us forward.

How do we adapt to the new normal of the virus? Certainly we’re not going to surrender, pretend it doesn’t exist, and whine about how it distances from our past. We’re going to march forward to solve its challenge. If we can’t do old, what’s the new?

We’ve got a lot of exciting questions to answer it’s pastime we stopped running from them.

United, if we focus.

 

If there was a kerfuffle involving any of the Trump children of course it would because Trump IS the incumbent. In addition to that, is all the misdirection and lies that have come out of this White House that prejudices the public. So there is no comparison.

 

If all three branches were under one party (Democrats in your case) and the Senate decided to make a 51 majority vote all you needed to pass legislation what do you think would be the outcome on such topics as:
1. The First Amendment and the freedom of speech.
2. The exception of religious church's exemption from taxes.
3. The freedom of the internet to ban or censorship political speech?
4. To allow only approved political party speech?
5. Authorization to confiscate all firearms from private citizens.
6. The right of the citizens to protest the government in a peaceful manner.
7. The right to arrest those who would do harm to peaceful protestors.
8. The right to protect our borders against drugs, sex traders, & illegals.
9. The rights of the citizens who may have grievances against the government to be free from search and seizures.
10. Would the 10th Amendment and States Rights be safe?
11. Would the 17th Amendment and the Electoral College be repealed and the rights of the minority states be abolished?
12. Will the Supreme Court be safe from interference from the legislative bodies?
13. Will the wealth of our retirement plans be safe from higher taxes?
14. Will those who have their own health care plans be forced to support a one payer system ?
15. Will we go back to interfering in foreign country affairs and resend our troops overseas?
16. Will we restore useless and dangerous Treaties with countries who do not play by the rules?
17. Will we be taking the word GOD off all things government?
18. Will the American flag no longer be flown at any government building or ceremony?
19. Will all books be summited to a government agency for censorship?
20. Will all indoctrination of those who go to public schools and college be government approved?
21. Who will pay reparations to citizens who lose their job and health care to illegal aliens?
22. Will we reverse our stand on trying to have peace with North Korea and in the Middle East?
23. Will we rejoin the Paris Peace Accord and finance the majority of the burden ?
24. Will we ban all fracking and oil exploration?
25. Will we the principles of Life, Liberty, Property ownership and the Pursuit of Happiness and become a socialist nation ?

These were my concerns so that is why I voted for Trump. So what can expect if Biden/Harris win.

 

Good questions. I'll try to respond to as many as I feel comfortable with.
1. I've never met a Democrat anywhere or anytime that opposed the First Amendment or Free Speech. I'm a Democrat & I regard both as sacred.
2. Speaking for myself only, I support the freedom of any religious institution having to pay no taxes, except when that institution becomes an active spokesman for a political agenda or party. Then it crosses that line of separation of state & religion, & becomes just another political entity, which disqualifies it from tax deferment. That doesn't change the rule, just the one institution that fails to qualify anymore.
3. Most Democrats, including myself, fully support freedom of speech & freedom to express differences of opinion. Unfortunately, there's a growing list of examples of extremist groups--hate groups, white supremacists, etc.--who have utilized the internet & social media effectively to spread their hate-based propaganda. That is destructive to society & a growing threat to the security of our nation. I along with many others--Democrats & Republicans--feel there's a growing need to address this new, recent threat with some kind of controls. But it's a touchy subject that demands sensitive responses.
4. The only party I'm aware of presently uncomfortable with allowing their opponents to have complete freedom to express different political views, is the Trump led Republican Party. Throughout the Trump administration, every Republican Congressman has been scared to death to utter a word of opposition on any issue Trump mentions. I've never before seen such behaviors. I've always seen discordant opinions on every topic within both major parties--until Trump. Biden likes to hear every possible perspective on important issues before he makes a decision. Trump doesn't. I seriously prefer Biden's way.
5. I don't know anyone personally or any public official who has advocated such an action. Democrats own firearms too. Many Democrats are hunters. The only place Democrats seriously disagree with Republicans here is on the issue of access to automatic weapons, which are useless for hunting, but often used in violent crimes. That's the only place the 2nd Amendment might be altered if Democrats take over.
6. That's a Constitutional Right. I join every Democrat in full support--the key word here being "peaceful." Biden has addressed this several times in his campaign, asserting his total support. He has also noted repeatedly, he does NOT support violent protests. Neither do I or any Democrats I know.
7. Agreed. I join with every Democrat I know in supporting your statement here.
8. I & every Democrat I know personally, agrees that the U.S. joins every other nation on Earth in their mutual right to protect their borders from drugs, sex traders, illegals & every other kind of criminal or criminal activity. Where we disagree with Trump Republicans is in the act of dividing families--especially minor children from mothers--& incarcerating them for unlimited time frames. Most Democrats regard that kind of response as criminal in itself, & a non-starter. For sure, our immigration laws need revision & improvement. That is the job of our Congress, not our President. Legally speaking, entering the U.S. illegally is NOT a felony, but a misdemeanor--not unlike running a stop sign, or driving with an expired license. Misdemeanors don't generally demand harsh punishments. But Trump has imprisoned ALL illegals as if they were hard core criminals--even infants--& kept them locked up for months or even years. That's a form of human rights abuse. It's unAmerican & needs to stop.
9. I suspect most Americans, including most Democrats would agree with your statement, unless there was some form of criminal activity (not political opposition) associated with the parties involved.
10. I am not aware of any major issues regarding state's rights that Democrats are upset about. Are you? I see no changes in the state's rights category if Democrats take over.
11. I am not aware of any discomfort with or misgivings toward the 17th Amendment by Democrats, & anticipate no changes there. The Electoral College is used only in the election of our President & Vice President. It transmutes the cumulative votes of the people into a generalized vote by the states themselves, making the election of these two important offices decided by the individual states rather than thru a democratic vote of the general public. Between 1788 & 2000, a period of 212 years, we experienced only two elections where the candidate getting fewer popular votes was declared the winner. Since 2000, a period of only 20 years, we've had that same experience twice, & both times in favor of Republicans. That imbalance seems like an alarm bell to many Democrats. Changes in society since 1788, coupled with remarkable changes in societies around the world, where democracies have grown in number & in the range of personal freedoms, Americans today have a very different view of government & democracy than the founding fathers had. In 1788, the U.S. was the prime leader in observing democratic principles. Today we're far down the list--even bring up the rear. Many Americans feel it's time to convert our elections of President & Vice-President from the EC to a direct democratic vote, in accordance with so many other "democracies" around the world. I agree.
12. That question should be directed to the Republicans, who have spent the past three decades increasingly focused on packing the courts all across our nation with their handpicked "conservative" judges. Democrats were caught sleeping by Republicans in this effort. Democrats were finally forced to open their eyes to Republican schemes when Trump had the rare opportunity to nominate 3 justices to our Supreme Court. You're asking if our courts will "continue" being safe from legislative bodies if Democrats take over? Our courts haven't been "safe" from legislative bodies for decades--all because of Republicans. This is an area where I suspect there will be much further activity.
13. If you make less than $400,000. income per year, Biden assures us our taxes won't increase. I've heard nothing regarding retirement plans.
14. The government sponsored "Public Option" would be supported by public taxes, so yes, you would be contributing. But keep in mind, that's a good investment in our country & its people. A healthier citizenry is cheaper economically & better in many other ways than the failed system we now have. Everyone benefits from a healthier public community. Everyone.
15. Most Americans, including myself, are sick of these senseless foreign wars. Biden seems sensitive to those feelings, & he's had a son in the Iraq War. So he knows how it feels to fret over their personal safety. I don't see Biden as a warmonger. I strongly oppose our involvement in any new wars anywhere. I strongly oppose war itself as a political tool. I'm a Democrat, & if I had my way, war would be outlawed.
16. If you're going to judge treaties by the manner each signatory abides by the rules, then you better be willing to make some pretty harsh judgements against the U.S. It has been this country--our country--which has failed to abide by the rules set up before the signing happened. It's been the U.S. under Trump that broke its word. Will we have new treaties or trade agreements under Democratic rule. I don't know if any country out there still retains enough faith in our word to sign anything with us. I hope they will, but I couldn't blame them if they didn't. This is a place where Trump's persistent lying & his fundamental dishonesty has had a major impact. It may hurt us in our relations with foreign nations for decades to come. It may be a real challenge to undo the destruction Trump has done to us.
17. God has no interest in government. Government is a human endeavor. Our founding fathers recognized how many violent conflicts in history were over the issue of God. That's why they separated church & state. I am not aware of any actions planned by Democrats to change the established relationship between government & God if Democrats win in 2020.
18. The American flag is flown over government buildings & official ceremonies now. Why would that change?
19. No, not under Democrat rule.
20. No again. But it's not government indoctrination that concerns me here. I was a public school teacher for six years, & the only resistance I experienced while teaching came not from government, but from the dominant religious group in my locale. It was very uncomfortable.
21. Since illegal alien entries have been cut to almost nothing, I don't see that as an issue. But I do see the fact that our national healthcare system is based on having employment, & when a pandemic causes you to lose your job, you also lose your healthcare for yourself & your entire family. That's a bad system. Our healthcare should be available for everyone at anytime, regardless of their current, temporary employment situation.
22. I sincerely hope not. I have no desire to return to hostilities with either of those locations, or any other. Let's elect peacemakers into office. (Democrat ones )
23. Yes, if it helps the world confront & fix global warming. Fixing that problem is far more important than saving a few $millions in petty disagreements.
24. Over time, yes. Biden has said over a span of 3 decades, I believe. We need to convert our economy over to green energy ASAP. That benefits ourselves & the entire world. It's the right thing to do.
25. Life, liberty & property are safe under Democratic rule. Perhaps more safe. Socialism has fallen victim to inaccurate propaganda in America. Americans don't know the difference between modern Socialism & the old discredited Communism. Americans are bludgeoned by political operatives saying they are the same. They are NOT. Modern Socialism is Capitalism with a heart. Conservative propagandists like to say Socialism is like Venezuela, or Cuba, or the fallen USSR. It isn't. Modern Socialism is like Norway, Sweden, Denmark (where the happiest people in the world live), & other W European countries. Modern Socialism--also called Democratic Socialism--has more freedoms than we in the U.S. currently enjoy. Plus, people are taken care of better. Far better. Socialism has some very positive qualities that would be more than helpful if adopted here. I support doing that. Try to not be a victim of propagandist lies here. Do a little personal research. You'll be surprised by what you find.

 

Just as many people and businesses believe any piece of bread with a hole in the center can be called a bagel, myriad TV and Internet shows advertise themselves as 'news'. Since there is NO official definition of 'news' then the content of these shows can be anything from factual to outright lies. Can these shows be expected to present every single bit of news or must they edit what news they present...obviously they must edit.

IMO it is incumbent upon the viewer to know the difference between facts and lies! And herein is your problem; either many people are incapable of learning the difference between facts and lies, or, many people choose to absorb lies and conspiracies because it fits their comfort zone? We have a president who lies every time his lips are moving yet millions of people believe him...all of these people don't care about lies! This also means these same people are going to watch news shows that provide the same lies.

The problem is not the so-called news programs...the problem is people!

 

Sorrowfully, we are headed down the path of destruction faster than ever before, though there is still a long ways to go. The problem is a natural one in that man's drive for power, if not checked, is greater than man's desire for universal individual liberty. When the scent of power gets strong enough it begins to eliminate the inherited checks and erodes virtue. Currently the radical left strongly smells power, and they are prepared and willing to trash our republic and its constitution for that power, all in the name of protecting the republic and constitution of course.

 

Half or more of the alleged "fundamental division" in U.S. politics could be instantly eliminated by turning off the TV and social media. I consume little of either, and there doesn't seem to be much division among the people in my community of all walks of life that I interact with daily.

Draw your own conclusions.

 

Guess you don't know much about me. I watch all the news channels and read most internet articles no matter who wrote them. You need not go down that path about Trump being a liar. Not anymore than any other President of our present day. I look at what he has accomplished in the last 4 years and what Biden has accomplished in all his years in government. Trump beats him hands down. In fact he has done more in such a short period of time it is hard to find someone who really has gotten the job done.

 

Unfortunately this is true. Also unfortunately it often seems that only conservatives have studied history -- or at least only they have truly comprehended what they studied.

 

It exists OK. It just has more power than the president so it has succeeded at avoiding any meaningful reform.

 

Of course.

For two years, Republicans had a majority in the Senate, the House and the presidency.

Nothing.

No arrests.

In fact, a bunch of Trump's collaborators are languishing in a cell right now....

 

You have to understand that not everyone really dislikes discord or even violence. BLM and antifa don't even think it's a bad thing. It's desirable and fun. That's why you hear people cheering and giggling in the background when a police officer or just some random old lady is assaulted on camera.

The media profits from discord, so don't expect any help there. And for young males, with no job, talent or intelligence, there really isn't anything they are able to do except to loot and burn.

There is nothing we can about it except to protect ourselves and our property as well as we can.

In parts of Latin America there is this anonymous militia force called the Black Hand, I think, that identifies delinquents in a neighborhood and eliminates them. But in the worst of our neighborhoods, the responsible adult males are absent, or if not, they own no property and so they have less incentive to stand up to the teens.

 

The power structure in government is upside down to be sure.

 

I don't know how to solve the divide, I only know it will have been solved (no doubt by people smarter than me) when I can have a discussion with someone without being branded as a "righty" or a "leftist." The "rah rah, my team over yours" crap is one of the larger underlying problems, and very few people seem to want to address it.

 

Division is part of our nature. Little children will divide when they choose one playmate over another, kids get together to dislike a teacher, workers unite to dislike a boss, tall people gravitate to other tall people and shorties will also group. We wear caps with a certain vehicle brand emblazoned on it and form groups based on the brand. We have the Masons and we have the National Organization of Women. We have Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts. We have democrats and republicans. Divisions are so woven into our society we will never completely unite. But certain events over time do bring us to a degree of unity.

 

Most people are incapable of simply asking 'what's in the best interest of the USA'?? As long as most people remain biased and self-serving, with little to no concern about what's best for the USA, we will remain politically divided and basically useless...

 

I'm one of those liberal Democrats you hate. Your list singles out the most extreme positions on all the issues you mention. There's no moderate, balanced, reasonable choices here. Yet, neither I, nor any Democrat I'm personally familiar with would agree with any item on your list. How did you get so out of touch with your fellow Americans. I don't know anyone--never met anyone--who advocates the items you list above. What American would? You are seriously victimized by extremist propaganda. I'm sorry for you, but concerned for the damage you & those like you can do to our nation out of your simple ignorance. That's scary.

 

Well under Obama, America began actively supporting a straight up Neo-Nazi group in the Ukraine (the Azov Battalion). All of this hand wringing over Russia is the neocon/neolibs pissed off Putin took assets from their globalist masters in Russia and gave them to his cronies. Then when he kicked out the western financed NGOs who were subverting him (around 2013), the neocon/neolibs lost their minds. They have been obsessed with Russia ever since, to the point that they will support literal white supremacists to get at him. In the end, the only thing that matters to these sociopaths is more power/money for themselves. None of this has anything to do with AMERICAN interests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

Obama = Bush = Clinton = People who sold out the American people = People who report to globalist masters

LoL... you use actual Nazi symbols in your battalion? No problem brah, have some weapons and have some money.... courtesy of the American taxpayer.

 

America hasn't been united united since after Washington's second term.