No Mandate That Election Must Be Called On Election Night

They are planning to tie up counts in court and then claim they ran out of time

 

In the past the Party’s have agreed on election that the unofficial results were enough to determine the winner. It hasn’t been a certified result.

All states have different certification date deadlines. In other words the usual result for a Presidential cycle is a “certified” winner isn’t determined until well after election night.

Trumps spouting is his usual nonsense
attempting to frame the environment.

 

No Mandate That Election Must Be Called On Election Night
I've had the pleasure of living thru several Presidential elections, & can testify from personal experience, that a final count & a final decision on winners, comes rarely on election night. Trump is making it an issue because he wants to win at any cost. I find it deplorable that Trump is going around spreading doubt, distrust & outright lies about the honesty, accuracy & integrity of our election system. Several studies have been made to try finding serious fraud across the decades, but all have failed. We have a good system. It's one you can rely on. Let Trump be Trump, but don't become a victim to his con-man plots. Keep your faith in America. Stay strong.

 

no election results or calls matter until Congress certifies the election.

they can say Trump won for weeks but Congress will say Biden won the actual count

 

They are all warm and fuzzy about that play. Three sitting justices on the Supreme Court worked for Baker and Stone.

 

Everyone knows that ballot counting ends when enough bogus ballots are dumped in the ballot boxes to throw the election to Traitor Joe. We saw that when your last favorite sexual predator, Al Franken, delivered a trunk full of bogus ballots to win his election. If Democrats fall short, they will be back in court. It's who they are.

 

I would like very much to believe that, but over the past 2-3 decades, politicians have voted more in support of their parties than in support of the country or the Constitution. Mitch McConnell's antics with Obama's & Trump's SCOTUS nominees are a good recent example. If the House decides the election, it's one vote for each state. While it's true that Democrats have more members in the House, it is equally true that Republicans have more states represented there. So, even in the House, Republicans have the power here. It's a mess.

 

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. I don't think Jim Comey will be helping trump two times in a row.

 

The people who think we have the technology to produce the other 70% of our electricity from windmills think we don't have the technology to count all the pieces of paper returned by the deadline.

Please explain why the ballots shouldn't be counted by election day.

 

You made this up.

 

I don't think anyone has said anything about not counting ballots after election day - most states continue to count votes will into the night.
I believe any such statement revolve around ballots --submitted-- after election day, which only stands to reason.

 

You made this up, as well.

 

Pennsylvania has received more than 2,000,000 mail-in ballots. Per state law, they can't be processed until 7 a.m. on Tuesday, and some counties have said they won't start opening them until after the polls close. Five Thirty Eight is estimating that the final vote for the state won't be known until Friday at the earliest.

 

Likely.
This does not, however, prevent the state being called for one person or another well before then.

 

So what? They tabulate tens of millions of votes per state on election day.

 

If there's a major imbalance between in-person and mail-in voters as to who they likely voted for (and we already have reason to believe thereis), then trying to call it early will lead to serious confusion. I fully expect Trump, and probably Fox, to claim that Pennsylvania has gone to Trump before 2 a.m. EST that night, when only a small fraction of the mail-in ballots will have been counted. If it turns out that the mail-in ballots then flip the result to Biden later in the week, Trump and many of his supporters will be crying foul.

 

Wait, aren't you the people telling us that mail in voting was easy and efficient?

Now it's like doing calculus.

What you just described is exactly the scenario Democrats are attempting to create.

I wonder why.

 

In-person voting is done on machines where the result automatically goes into the system without a poll worker having to physically feed a ballot into a machine. How many people do you think it would take to open and process 2,000,000+ ballots in 17 hours (starting at 7 a.m. and concluding before midnight)?

 

It is easy and efficient. In most states, they've been processing the mail-in ballots well ahead of time. But in Pennsylvania, Republicans blocked attempts to change the law preventing that. Being able to process 2 million+ physical ballots that have to be individually opened and fed into a machine in a few days is very efficient. It just doesn't meet the ridiculous expectations that Trump is trying to set for everyone.

 

Only if the final count reverses it.
The people who make these calls have impossibly detailed data for each precinct - including the proportion of D/R mail in ballots cast - and know which precincts matter.
At some point someone says "for A to win, the mail-in ballots have to break X:Y, and our data says that won't happen"

That said, I fully expect Biden, and certainly MSDNC, to claim that Pennsylvania has gone to Biden before 2 a.m. EST that night, when only a small fraction of the mail-in ballots will have been counted. If it turns out that the mail-in ballots then flip the result to Trump later in the week, Biden and many of his supporters will be crying foul.

 

If it's easy and efficient why would the law need changed.

 

I think doing that is irresponsible, especially if it's the other way around. "For A to win, the mail-in ballots have to break X:Y, and our data says that is almost certainly going to happen." In that scenario, there will be outrage if they actually try to call the state at that point.

 

That's the rules .

 

Because those qualifiers are relative, and the sheer number of ballots require more time than in the past.

 

Why is this important to you?