Why Masks are Ineffective, Unnecessary, and Harmful

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Not on it's face but certainly can show causation under properly controlled conditions and experiments and double blind testing. Our scientific community uses stats to proves everyday. What percent of bacteria are killed by this drug versus this drug, we can take that correlation and determine which is more effective.
     
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    Funny since you've presented nothing in this thread but cheep correlation and no strong scientific evidence to support your position.
     
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    Well (original)late says none of that matters because the CDC and other scientific groups aren't aware that correlation does not equal causation therefore whatever they say about their studies doesn't count. And like with the vaccines coming up in testing they can never be approved because the correlation between those getting the vaccine and contracting the virus versus those who got a placebo and got it..... well those statistics do not prove causation.

    So I guess we will never have any approved vaccines or therapeutic drugs. Go figger.
     
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    Jesus

    Eight months into this thing and nearly a quarter million dead and we're still talking about masks?

    With 90,000 infections a day and 1000 deaths?

    Are ya ****ing KIDDING?
     
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    Yes. Do the Sharryl Atkkisson substitution and replace masks with hydroxychloroquine. In the case of masks no scientific proof is necessary. In the case of hydroxychloroquine (an anti inflammatory mediation which has been used worldwide for decades) scientific proof is required. That’s progressive medical expert thinking these days.
     
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    I don't have a relevant degree, so it's not my position.
     
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    Apparently not, the Cult will stop at nothing to protect their god.
     
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    I knew she was stupid. I had no idea she was THAT stupid.

    Incidentally you folks were as sure about Hydroxy as you are about your opposition to masks

    Just saying
     
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    Why Masks are Ineffective, Unnecessary, and Harmful

    1. Mask wearing is a placebo for the public to which it clings out of fear created by government and the press. I don't view it as harmful.

    2. We are dealing with virus that is very contagious and not very dangerous to which we have overreacted to the point of hurting the country.

    3.The whole thing has been driven by politics which, of course, is humanity at its worst.

    That is what see.
     
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    Doesn't keep you from posting as if you actually understand what constitutes strong scientific evidennce
     
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    YOU need to understand that your claims to honoring science and the scientific method are BOGUS, an exercise in cognitive dissonance.
     
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    Both the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine (used as a standard treatment in the early stage of COVID-19 infection globally) and the ineffectiveness of cloth and surgical masks is confirmed by science.
     
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    You obviously can read and understand the literature. You don’t need a “relevant degree” to understand science.
     
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    It drives fear. It gives folks the excuse to not trust science because science never supports progressive positions. Science is the thing democrats cite so they can mischaracterize truth and reshape it into fear.
     
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    Well you manage to get everything backwards again.

    Hey...why do you think they didn't use hydroxy on Trump?

    IT DOESN'T WORK!

    That train left the station a long time ago ...and save the anti-masking bullshit. It's just as flawed
     
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    Claims "science" then says "observation" as his defense. Stellar!
     
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    Oh, so you have the strong scientific evidence now?
    Please discuss that study like a scientist that understands science.
    Thanks in advance
     
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    What is horrifying: now that we know, backed by science, that the masks are at best, harmful to us unless you are symptomatic and trying not to sneeze/cough on other people, why are these masks still mandated? Because it is about control and obedience. Resist.
     
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    This is exactly why Dr. Scott Atlas is vilified by the left. He understands the science and follows the science with regard to policy. Progressives claim to understand and follow the science but all their policy recommendations/implementations increase the power and size of government and the “tyranny of (unelected) experts”.
     
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    We have already discussed the nations which do not require masks and the fact that in the US the overwhelming majority of people do us masks.

    Why are all nations globally using hydroxychloroquine as a standard treatment protocol in the early stages of Covid-19?

    c19study.com

    hcqtrial.com

    And this from the Chinese Communist Party which uses Chloroquine

    https://www.ephi.gov.et/images/novel_coronavirus/Handbook-of-COVID-19-Prevention-and-Treatment.pdf
     
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    I an also not trying to fake expertise.
     
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    And you are doing an excellent job of that. :)
     
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    Uh, yeah you are, if you keep throwing up weak evidence and telling those who present strong scientific evidence that you're right and they'r wrong
     
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    masks help reduce the spread of disease, just wear them until this is over, it's not that hard
     
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    masks reduce risks, they do not eliminate risk

    condoms reduce the risk of std's or getting pregnant, but do not eliminate the risk

    all about risk management and a surgeon that was infected should not be operating on anyone, as even with a mask, there is some risk
     
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