Can hate win an election?

So if one billion Illiterate foreigners have babies here illiterate foreigners have babies here Your going to take care of them? Lol

 

No you couldn’t immigrate here from
Certain countries pre 1960’s .. can’t get here you can’t lay your welfare eggs

 

I'm familiar with the fringe "legal" theories regarding Natural Born citizenship and the Presidency. Even if you were right about that (and you aren't, these are again just fringe nonsense theories that have no impact on our laws) we were talking about citizenship by birth. If you are born here, you are a citizen. Your pet theories about how it doesn't qualify you for the Presidency don't change the fact that IT IS STILL LEGAL BASIS FOR CITIZENSHIP.

 

I love seeing you use the same arguments that ill-informed xenophobes used against your ancestors, but this is complete nonsense. The discussion was about CITIZENSHIP. Remember? Your hatred for the Constitution is still irrelevant.

 

You are, again, scrambling to change the goal posts. We were talking about citizenship, not immigration. If an illegal immigrant has a kid here, that kid is still a citizen, your hatred for the Constitution notwithstanding. Hell, if you are so interested in history, for most of our country's history we had open borders.

 

Yes, hate won in 2016.

Hate of the politics.
Hate of Hilary.
Hate ruled 2016.

 

tRUMP has policies, yes. Policies to hate other humans. And his base supports that?

 

I don’t agree with the 1960’s law the results destroyed urban areas

 

This was the law well before the 1960s, and it didn't "destroy" anything.

 

Illogical fallacies,, in 1960 America USA had less than one million Latinos .. it wasn’t until welfare did they come.. and knowing this why didn’t we go back to what kept them away?

 

Of course it did, did you grow up in a major urban area of America like I did?

 

Again, still irrelevant to the question of citizenship. If you want to change what the Constitution says about citizenship, get to working on an amendment.

 

I live in one now. No, "Latinos" have not destroyed the US.

 

That’s your opinion,, how are white Americans FROM there doing? How are the blacks doing? From there .. generations. How are they doing?

 

Your baseless xenophobia is your own opinion. I would actually need evidence before accepting such paranoia.

 

How are whites doing from that area? Whites that have roots there? Any hooked on meth? Crack? How’s the black crime rate?

 

But I AM talking about physical defense against violent crime. I'm talking about rioters for example- which as far as I'm concerned, if shot in the act, have no defense. I would put the people who fail to enforce the laws that should have controlled the rioters under indictment as co-conspirators.

The right to criticize is open to anybody. However, when dems use the cancel culture to silence any opposition, that is a form of extortion- if you criticize us, we will attack your livelihood, your reputation, punish you not for your opinion but for opposing us. That falls under the category of crimes that at present can't be legally prosecuted very clearly; it's a relatively new dirty trick- but I suspect legislation will come on it. Often the prosecutors who should be bringing charges simply ignore it because they believe it's right to suppress the speech of those who disagree. That is malfeasance of office, and that IS a crime. Maxine Waters stood at a microphone and told her audience to hunt down Trump supporters everywhere, run them out and tell them they aren't wanted here. I would call that hate speech, which is illegal as well... and you would call it hate speech too if any opposing candidate recommended republicans act the same way. The democrats and congress didn't reprimand Waters- because their sense of justice is comprised enough to permit abuse when it serves their purpose. I see you promoting this concept- that the feeling of righteousness is a suitable rationalization for doing to others the things you would never see as just when coming your way.

Either the standards of conduct are equal for both sides, or there are no standards. That doesn't have to be agreed on to be true- if a person acts that way, they have made that they way the game is played.

You clearly state that you agree- if under attack, you will do whatever you deem necessary to protect yourself, including killing the attacker. What happened to that persons civil rights at that moment? YOU suspended them in your view, because he has rejected law overall when he chose to attack you. So you DO agree that at that moment- that person has no civil rights as far as you are concerned. That is unless you feel you must mirandize him before you shoot, or try to explain that you understand he had a bad childhood and is just angry rather than a bad guy. Of course, then you will probably be dead.

You perhaps failed to notice that I said he has no civil rights DURING THE CRIME. That doesn't mean the person does not lose them at other times.

Honorable people believe in a level playing field. The last thing I endorse is the right of any individual to control the right of any other, as pertains to their personal choices or beliefs. However, when your choice is to impact my life, I have a right to reject the choice and you, out of hand because you have exceeded your proper moral authority. That is the point here- not that you do or don't like any candidate or philosophy, but that when you impose those things on others, you have crossed a line and consequences are probably going to occur.

If you are unable to regulate your life without causing harm to or using others to facilitate getting what you want, you have tilted the field. That may be very difficult for you to understand, from the sound of it.
In other words- if you applied your claims to the guy in your mirror, I think it would fit. It doesn't apply to the concept I've made at all.

The most important aspect of believing in your fellow man is that you allow them to live as they choose- you don't control them for their own good or for yours, they treat you the same way. They owe you nothing more than that, you owe them nothing less. Beyond that, people may come together to build great things- but those rules always apply.

I don't care if you wish to live in a cardboard box, or a mansion. If you choose to remain ignorant, or pursue knowledge and understanding. If you think communism would be great, or drugs are just recreational. Those are personal choices, you are entitled. But the moment you decide you have the right to force others to pay for what you want, to impose your ideas on their lives, to control their rights or threaten the quality and safety of their lives or freedom- you and I are on opposite sides of the line that divides good from evil. At that point, your civil rights do become tenuous in my opinion.

 

How is any of this the fault of Latinos? Again, you are welcome to your weird fantasy. If you want others to accept it, you need to actually consider the concept of evidence . . . which this xenophobia obviously never based on in the first place.

 

Is every politician not white, not a citizen?

 

What would you do with those who didn't measure up?

 

This sort of chatter never includes a bit of proof.

Funny isn't it?

We have so much evidence the Democrats hate Trump and that the Media hates Trump. It is not even in question.

 

Where do you believe Kamala was born? Or do you have some alternate meaning for "natural born?"

 

I will give you the chance to explain that name calling. What are you trying to discuss here?

 

Because you can’t flood poor middle class urban areas with illiterate foreigners from different countries that have a different culture. School is meant to be learned within assimilated group of kids. The confusion I had growing up white middle-class in a public school, Latino girls at the age of 12 and 13 pregnant, is a culture shock, even for blacks, seeing them stay in clusters ( hatians) also.. isn’t good for poor Americans.. it’s destroyed Americans urban areas. Go to a black public high school have a conversation with a valedictorian, they can’t communicate.. this is a nation wide issue. Calling us names doesn’t help.. Americans need help with their going to resort to drugs and alcohol and homelessness. You can’t replace poor Americans with foreigners, lowering wages. I’d rather be xenophobic than ameriphobic

 

"A guy who moved next door speaks Spanish . . . so I, um, had to start doing crack!" Lol, dude, you are a riot. I'll take this as your admission that you can't actually answer my challenge.

Nothing I've said is "Ameriphobic." Hell, you are the one here continually attacking what our Constitution has to say about citizenship.