Marcus Smart's painful postgame incident a lasting reminder that racism is taught

A "good many" is a very broad term. She represents a tiny percentage. That the chart is more a measure of motivation. They can't force people to apply. You would have to show people being turned away.

We agree on the decline over the years. The goal of an activist group should be to put themselves out of business. That does not appear to be the case.

 

You obviously have never watched any youtube videos by black people explaining how college ruined their lives. Here I will help you out, here is a black guy explaining how college ruined his life. Google this stuff. Search "college ruined my life" on youtube. If you want to deny the lived experience of other people, that is on you.



Taking on $100K of debt for education CAN BE A CATASTROPHIC THING! My niece says that it has ruined her life. She says it is the worst decision she ever made. That doesn't make her debt go away, that debt is un-erasable and she will be paying for decades on it.

 

You literally did. By claiming to be white means you inherently can't understand what black people live through. When literally at the same income levels we have the same jobs, same schools, same teachers, same neighborhoods, etc. Its nonsense.

 

Incorrect, skin color is no longer a significant issue in our society, and it hasn't been for many decades. There is equal opportunity, for the most part. What little difference there is in opportunity actually BENEFITS black people over white people via various forms of AA.

The reality is systemic racism no longer exists and hasn't for a long time. To pretend otherwise is to ignore the data and instead take peoples personal anecdotes as more significant evidence lmao, which is astoundingly stupid to do.

All of the data you are using is easily explained by looking at more data, you seem to realize this which is why you have devolved your position into "so many black peoples opinion is they are oppressed" which is such a horrendous argument that is inherently a losing one.

As has been stated previously, black people go to college less often, not due to racism but motivation. Thats a cultural issue, not a racist issue. You can't show them being turned away while qualified due to race, which completely debunks your argument that actually had data behind it. The rest of you argument is self defeating.

 

Objectively incorrect, once again this data doesn't prove the point you desperately want it to prove.

Firstly, the OP doesn't at all prove that racism is being passed down to children. Its an anecdote that has demonstrated a single person as the bad guy here. Its not reflective of society as a whole. In fact your claim that it demonstrates its being passed to children is easily debunked by the objective fact we are less racist as a country now than we have ever been. This inherently means we aren't passing racism down to our children. The briefest time of objective thinking would have led you to the same conclusion. You supplied an anecdote, nothing more.

Furthermore, the gap is easily explained by cultural differences. The reality is that black people dont value education as much as they should growing up, this is due to not having a 2 person parenting family. This is a statistical anomaly for them (the single parent household) that is resulting in a wide spread amount of issues from violent crime to education. Its all related, and looking at it in a vacuum like you are doing here is extremely dishonest. If you were able to for instance, take that graph and then demonstrate the differences is due to black people being turned away...THEN you would have a strong argument. But you cannot do that because its not true. They aren't being turned away, the issue is they aren't applying. Because they aren't applying, despite having the equal opportunity for loans, grants, etc (in fact they have MORE opportunity due to AA) they are still behind. This is solved within the black community, by having stronger family units and changing the culture, rather than a societal issue that requires action to correct.

The problem with your analysis isn't that you aren't trying, its that you are trying to hard to paint the picture you want to paint, as opposed to just letting the data speak for itself. If you actually decided to look at it objectively, all of it, and ask questions out side of immediately jumping to conclusions about racism you would come to the same conclusion as I am.

So no, it certainly doesn't.

 

Which is absurd. Taking someone at their word on their own life experiences, when people not only lie (as seen with the abundances of race hoaxes) but may in the black community have been taught to believe everytime a white person mistreats them its due to racism, that every time they lose out on an opportunity, its because of racism. Its literally the definition of confirmation bias and you are content with simply taking them at their word?

Thats ultimately your issue. Look at the data, all of it, let it speak for itself, it leads to the only rational conclusion. Its not racism holding black people back, its culture.

The best argument that can be made, is while it is objectively culture holding them back, that this culture (while belonging to every race to some degree) is more of an issue in the black community because of HISTORY of racism. To some degree, although I'm sure we will disagree on how much, this is true. However the best thing we can do as a society is make things equal opportunity. Once you start trying to correct for history, you are punishing those who didnt participate by discriminating against them, which is inherently wrong.

 

Are you saying there are equal numbers of blacks and whites in the population?

Blacks are a minority, remember?

 

To be fair, that graph is based on percentages.

 

I have not. Still haven't either.

 

If racism is taught, can a college course unteach it?
Many of my students tell me it can. They say my course improves their tolerance toward others, allows them to put themselves in another person’s shoes and makes them more willing to take action to end discrimination and inequality.

Twenty years ago, I started asking this question on my final exam: “What is one thing you’ve learned from this class that you’ll remember long after this class is over?” Year after year, about 25% of the class says something like, “I have learned to be more tolerant of people who are different from me.”
https://www.studyinternational.com/news/racism-is-taught-unlearn/

Since it seems racism is taught.
Can it be untaught?

 

Children aren't born racist. Here's how parents can stop them from becoming racist.
How, they wonder, can we raise kids to be anti-racist?
The first step is understanding where racism comes from -- the underlying psychological and cognitive functions that lead us to see and categorize people by color, according to May Ling Halim, associate professor of psychology at California State University, Long Beach, and Sarah Gaither, assistant professor psychology and neuroscience at Duke University.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/06/health/kids-raised-with-bias-wellness/index.html

So there's no born trait that makes on dislike another because of skin color.

 

It can, and overwhelmingly already has, this is why each generation has less and lessracist. To the point now, from an objective standpoint, systemic racism has been eradicated.

What racism still exists, is mostly directed at whites people, not coming from them.

 

Yes, it's why I say another 3 or so generations before it becomes a big non issue.
In laws, yes it has. In people's minds and actions, not entirely.

 

It will never entirely be gone, there will always be stupid people.

Just because it exists to some small degree doesn't make it a big issue. Its already a nonissue.

 

no, it will never be completely gone.
There are still people who think women should not vote. But they are insignificant

Protests all summer long, prove it's not a non issue.

 

Riots.

And the riots dont prove anything other than people are easily manipulated into destruction. In recent times, its terrorist organizations like BLM and antifa doing the vast majoirty.

 

Yes, manipulated into disgust about a black man killed by a cop with his knee on his neck. So manipulated.

 

Its weird too. As if they want it to be prolific.

 

Manipulated by the bigger narrative these anecdotes are used to create. The objective reality is, police brutality is a statistical anomaly and yet these terrorists rioting are convinced its the status quo. This is manipulation, so yes... so manipulated.

None of these riots are for any singe incident, its because the MSM takes these isolated incidents and maes false narratives about this being a common occurrence, when objectively its an anomaly. Same thing for racism, its an anomaly and objectively not systemic, yet here you are pushing this incorrect narrative, contributing to the false narrative that’s contributing to the anger, thats the reason for the violence and rioting.

 

They do, there is political gain to be had by making people believe they are victims. Given history, dems see the black community as a perfect opportunity to gain easy voters by using anecdotes to create false narratives.

 

drunk idiot says n-word...THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS RACIST

thank you for this super informative thread...my eyes have been opened...I am now WOKE

 

Sensible

 

It's not a statistical anomaly.
Protests don't emerge from an anomaly.

 

It is a statistical anomaly. This is objective fact.

And yes, they clearly do. As despite having a small handful of police brutality each year, despite the millions of interactions between police and civilians each year, despite the tens of millions of black people that exist in the U.S., a small handful of police brutality cases and there are riots over them.

From an objective standpoint, so few incidents of police brutality, is an anomaly.

You disagree, only because you "just believe" what people tell you. This is a mindset on the left that is no better than the most strict of religious folk. You "just believe" what people are telling you despite evidence, or even evidence to the contrary.

 

That's ridiculous.
Protests don't arise from anomaly's. That's an objective fact.