Glenn Greenwald resigns from the Intercept following dispute over Biden story

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    I enjoyed that post. Very colourful :)
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    I've heard some of my non-partisan conservative leaning friends say that Rogan's ok. Haven't taken the courage to plunge in yet. It could be the muscles..:bleh:
     
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    Hummm, I wonder if it is possible Greenwald manufactured the incident to force his buy out or something. The journalist he used to be line suggests to me that this is probably part of a bigger internal dispute that has been going on awhile.
     
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    Like yourself I am not American. I come from Scotland. As far as I could see most genuine American left rather than Centrists thought that Russiagate was fake - just that the Dems could not bear the idea that they lost and had to put it on to something outside rather than dealing with the real issues..... I can't remember going to the Intercept about it but I would be very surprised if they did not fit into that. ;)
     
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    Do you know the Intercept at all? The first thing that went through my mind when I heard of this was - well he has been living in Brazil with his partner and has said they both worry that they will be killed - they are gay and Brazil is into killing gays at the moment. From there I thought that sort of thing puts you under a lot of strain it could be that - as I have said in another place he is someone I respect. That was my first feeling...

    Here is the Intercept

    continued at https://theintercept.com/2020/10/29/glenn-greenwald-resigns-the-intercept/

    As I already said I could not know who was telling the truth as I did not have enough information. I also was unable to get through to the story he wanted to have published.
    Last night I found another left leaning organisation The Majority Report talking about this. see post 23. I gather from that that Sam Seder says that Hunter Biden had sent an email implying that Joe Biden had met a Ukrainian official, apparently after he was Vice President. In that email Hunter Biden apparently said 'you have to put ten percent aside for the 'big guy' who Sam Seder assumes was Joe Biden. Seder suggests that the liklihood was that Hunter Biden was just saying this but had intended on putting it into his own pocket. There is nothing beyond that to implicate Joe Biden and apparently Greenwald even made it clear there was no evidence to implicate him. Seder says it was a bit strange being sort of about how it was being supressed but also sort of about how Biden was innocent. He said it was sort of 'trafficking inunendo'.

    Seder says he saw the emails between Glreenwald and his editor and thought the editors were quite legit.

    They both admit to having known Glen for some time. The guy being interviewed says he has worked with him and likes him........and then he says that recently he thinks he has lost the plot. That fits in with what the Intercept says about him

    https://theintercept.com/2020/10/29/glenn-greenwald-resigns-the-intercept/

    This guy has said that he has seen Greenwald mistake personal amnisoty towards someone with the belief that they are corrupt and that that logic has driven him to some areas this year which he finds strange and that he genuinely believes the foreign policy of Biden is a threat and that that also motivates his behaviour. He says, if my ears are hearing this right that you can go to Glen Greewalds help desk and read the emails between him and the editor for yourself. Watch ten minute video post 23

    It is looking like it might be Greenwald having some difficulties at the moment.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Interesting info, cheers.

    I confess I know nothing about Biden's foreign policy. He has always come across as a support guy not a leader so we may be in for a few surprises!

    Trump at least you could understand. Make Europe pay and keep those horribly intellectual leaders at a distance. Get chummy with the dictators.
     
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    I'm not even going to give you one source... here you can pick any one of many,

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=fbi+investigating+hunter+biden+2019&ia=web

    Hunter Biden have been under investigation by the FBI since 2019, I don't care whether you like facts or not, it is what it is
     
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    What a mess

    Glenn Greenwald’s Half-Truths About The Intelligence Agencies
    https://www.trevorloudon.com/2020/10/glenn-greenwalds-half-truths-about-the-intelligence-agencies/

    how do you figure out the good guys from the bad... here's my compass, anyone... government or central bank, that are banning Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are enemy number one. These are the people who want to control the money supply.

    Enemy number two... the push to carbon neutral when you are on the cusp of financial collapse. vvv banks manipulating politicians
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10...y-from-coal-toward-carbon-neutrality/12825934
     
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    Another Trumper caught with his head so far up Bronze Boys Behind that he couldn't hear his employers telling him he was fired. Good Christ Trump's **** must be addictive
     
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    add to list - enemy number one, Hedge Funds...these are also the people at the top of the banking debt pyramid...no surprise. Clearly they are hoping for a Biden win, Biden will ban Bitcoin & crypto

    HEDGE FUNDS WIDELY FLIP SHORT ON BITCOIN DESPITE BLATANT BREAKOUT
    https://bitcoinist.com/hedge-funds-widely-flip-short-on-bitcoin-despite-blatant-breakout/


     
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    yeah well your head is also missing but clearly lost in another cavity
     
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    What makes you think Glenn Greenwald is a “Trumper”? You obviously have no clue as to who this guy is. Have you ever read any of his work?
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov said:
    Another Trumper caught with his head so far up Bronze Boys Behind that he couldn't hear his employers telling him he was fired. Good Christ Trump's **** must be addictive

    Yes, he made a comment which demonstrated clearly that he has no idea what he’s talking about .
     
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    Glenn Greenwald is one of the few who can still call himself a journalist.
     
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    This has been head muddling listening to different people. One guy and he is left wing I have watched him several times made the very strong point that Greenwald had told the truth and by that alone it should have been accepted though he did not agree with where Glen was coming from. I had got the impression from what the guys at the Majority Report said that he had not been honest in the same way that if you are economical with the truth you are not honest. I had got the impression he had put in some information which was highly questionable and because of that had also made the point that there was no evidence against Biden which would support that he was just putting in inuendos which I don't see as honesty in something at the moment so important. From what they said it looked like he was trying to create ideas in people's minds which might not be true.

    However I then came upon this one by Jimmy Dore. Not so much him as he can be a bit ott but Aaron Mate is someone I have noticed is very careful about being honest and getting that from other people even sometimes when it might not be exactly what one might think he might want to hear. What he says he will genuinely believe is the truth. They strongly support Greenwald. They say that Jeremy Scahill has not yet responded so it might be interesting to see what he says. Anyway have a look at this and see what you think.

     
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    This deal with glen.and the editors began awhile back. One intercept writer pushed rudsiagate and gtrenwald didn't like it and.gave a counter article. Greenwsld never bought into.the hoax.
     
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    Greenwald is a liberal, but he’s a true journalist. He needs facts. He doesn’t go off of memes and unsupported accusations based on political partisanship.

    I sometimes disagree with him, but he always presents a rational case.
     
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    Add Big tech to enemy of humanity's list, I'm going to start a Bitcoin thread and name and shame all these organisations who protect the corrupt banking sector. Do they understand that by keeping information from people, they are denying these people access and knowledge to the only asset that can help them through what is going to be extremely difficult times...

    Facebook is censoring the Bitcoin hashtag in an effort to have a safe community. Hashtags about drugs, weapons and all the other altcoins are fine though.
    https://cryptopotato.com/facebook-censors-bitcoin-hashtag/
     
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    They broke their contract .
     
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    Ok, Jeremy Scahill has given his position

    https://theintercept.com/2020/11/01/statement-jeremy-scahill/
     
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    Just to note, the Hunter story seems to have gone a little quiet ^^

    In contrast Trump and Russia etc. may hot up again, since Trump will be leaving office. It'll be interesting to watch as long as it doesn't turn into a 3-year showboat again (Which it probably will).

    Decapitations are best done quickly
     
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    Greenwald failed to meet the most basic tenet of investigative journalism. He made accusations with no evidence, no corroboration of sources, nothing that other journalists could check against their own sources.
     
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    It sounds like that.
     
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    Or he spoke the brutal truth.
     
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    A "brutal truth"?
    With no evidence,
    With no corroboration of sources,
    With nothing that other journalists could check against their own sources.

    Missing all those proofs, he spoke a brutal lie, that is all.
     

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