If Biden wins he's coming after our guns. He Tweeted that today

So... Biden is lying?

 

You say this like you believe it's Trump's fault!

 

It will kill him in battleground states, and only help him in blue states already in his bag. Another senior moment on his part?

 

He sure made a good start. Dems want minorities poor and dependent.

 

I support Trump .. still i wish he will take all your guns and turns them into classic replicas or something nice

 

I note your good intentions. However, to govern is to compromize; you can't have half the population impose all its ideas to the other half lest you create constant chaos like the present one Trump is creating.
As for the moral values, Trump has demonstrated during his whole life that he's anything BUT moral values!
And it looks to me that those who presently want real change are, sorry to say, the democrats, they want more justice and more equal opportunities. Biden is offering them that, be it with the money coming from big and rich corporations/people. What did Trump actually do to bridle the big Techs?

 

So then, how can we have a welfare state when everyone is working. This is one of those make up your mind things.

 

Of course, nobody can name a "moral" president outside of possibly Reagan and Carter. That is also fairly irrelevant to getting the job done. For example, alcoholism is certainly a big negative in a persons qualities, but not all alcoholics fail to perform. Some are exceptional performers, what is generally known as "functional alcoholics". Trump is and always has been an achiever. I can tell you that in the business world, you will have a lot of opposition to building a performing company or team; and if you aren't a hard-nosed and determined person, you won't have a chance. Between the unions and the typical attitudes of most workers which would say coasting is good enough... you lose. I want a president that IS a hard-charger, not one who is primarily concerned with never offending anyone. The person that does that usually doesn't identify who is standing in the way and holding us back, and the one who does is going to take a lot of heat for doing so.

There's a saying- that you can do so many dishonest things legally, why break the law? Politicians are skilled in doing dishonest things and immoral things legally. It's been the core of most political entities as long as either of us have been alive- kind of the "let's not and say we did" thing. The public buys the promises, elects the guy making them, and then- buys the excuses, which are often on the lines of we didn't do it strongly enough, so let's get a bigger hammer and double down. As in, raise taxes, grow government, take even more of your money and freedom.

Trump isn't creating the chaos at all. Granted he can be a challenge, but to blame him for what you do, what Pelosi says or does- is pure BS. If those people lose all their morals and self-control because Trump makes a statement- then they have no morals or self control. The idea that Trump is responsible for another politician freaking out is a very childish excuse- like a 5 year old would make. indicates that's the only case they can make.

Biden is offering what he has no power to provide. And unfortunately- what the democrats really want is basically socialism, where thing are free and somebody else pays the bills. Biden promises that. IF you are the guy who expects to benefit and you have no respect for your fellow man's rights, I suppose you would support it. Remember that the liberal and democrats are the ones lending support to the rioters burning our cities, the BLM crowd trying to blame their crime rates and bad conduct record on the rest of society, the vandals tearing down hundreds of historic statues and so much more ugly stuff. These are things that are big red flags to fundamental values. Not small preferences, but the things that indicate whether your character has some substance or is outright rotten.

Who in their right mind would give power to people like that? That's precisely what you do with a Biden vote. It's not Biden himself that is particularly evil, it's the people that already own him. He's just their front man, their ticket in. Once you elect him- you have elected them, and unlike a president, they have no term of office, and will not be gone in 4 years. You will be living with the consequences of that decision for a very long time.

You should consider what kind of morality goes along with that.

 

Over 10 rounds. If you need more than 10 rounds to kill your quarry you should be at the ophthalmologists you should certainly not be hunting. The only reason one needs more than 10 rounds is that the average fast food outlet usually has more customers than that in their serving area (assuming normal times) and the survivors can attack a nut (or usually just run away) while he reloads

 

Most people on welfare are working, they just can't support their big families, which many have because their religion forbids abortions

 

We lily livered poltroons are around all the time. There just seem more of us after some well-armed nutcase kills 25 children at a school or 55 people at a concert. It's funny how I'm a puling coward because I think guns should not be given to criminals and madmen but I've lived a fairly long life often under rough circumstances and never felt the need to carry or even own one whereas many gun advocates seem to need one in the shower.

Rights are regulated all the time. You have always needed a permit to make a speech on public property and that is simply a matter of convenience. Guns are clearly regulated for public safety which is the reason governments exist in the first place. You have a RIGHT to get the permit for the speech, they cannot deny that and, according to Heller, you have a right to get any sort of gun that is not inherently dangerous to the public, like an 88mm German anti-aircraft/tank gun or an assault rifle (You can get them too, you have a right, but you have to satisfy certain requirements. frex 88's are hard to keep in the average apartment)

 

You're welcome.

 

It also states that the righof the citizens to own arms shall not be infringed. That pretty much says you do have the right, and that government is under constitutional mandate not to mess with that right.

 

Thank you, but nobody really even said it. Even Beto was only referring to guns he thought should be illegal, like assault rifles and machine guns

 

If the crazy people have done it over and over with the same devices, yes.

 

Why ten rounds? If you need more than one round to kill your quarry you should be at the ophthalmologists you should certainly not be hunting.

I don't hunt. My weapons are strictly for self defense. I do carry a pistol when going into the woods sometimes because of the bear and feral hogs.

Maybe you plan on your target to stand still. I don't count on that.

However, none of that has little to do with it. I usually keep five rounds in each magazine. That way, the magazine spring is not compressed excessively for a long period of time. If the magazine holds fewer rounds, then I get the same spring compression only with fewer rounds.

 

Probably a 50 cal machine gun.

 

Already illegal without a special destructive devices permit from the ATF.

 

so, knives

 

The policy you seem to foster would bring the USA 60 or 70 years back. Riots must be tamed, but the causes of the riots need to be corrected. You oversimplify when you say that all democrats support the rioters. Your fundamental values seem to be limited to law & order; you dump Justice and Equal Rights.

Back to Trump: as I said in a previous post, I can't stand the guy and I accept I'm prejudiced. I do not endorse your "ends justify the means" approach.

You are very lenient towards Trump and that's your choice; it isn't mine. Bring Kasich back next time and we'll talk.

 

So knives what? You're being cryptic

 

lol... "crazy people have done it over and over with the same devices and killing more and more people each time" is a lot more devices than just 'assault weapons'.

 

We'll stipulate that all magazines have quality springs

 

The causes of riots are usually people who want to act out and rebel, and they don't really have a "cause", nor need one- just an excuse. They aren't civilized people- they think extortion and terrorism constitutes a form of justice, or should I say- justification. Meet my demands or I will burn your neighbor's house down..... That's so incredibly distorted that it seems everyone knows it except the liberals and the non-thinkers who buy whatever the talking heads sell.

The nation has all kind of ways to make changes and remedy problems. The fact some people complain and don't get what they want is hardly proof of injustice or lack of a remedy- it's usually proof their demands were unjust and unreasonable in the first place. Those who who don't give a damn about anyone but themselves think otherwise, because they are grossly irresponsible and undisciplined people with adolescent mentality. That can be true regardless of age, education or income.

It's not the end justifies the means, because Trump hasn't in any way limited the means of recourse and change. Those who think setting fire to the property of people that have nothing to do with their anger are criminals, as well as misfits and *******s that have no legitimate cause. IF they did, they wouldn't be behaving that way. We have been watching the worst demonstration of deteriorating character I've ever seen and the people doing it blame their actions and feeling on Trump- as if they have no control of themselves. Really convenient way to rationalize the total lack of maturity and character that an adult should have developed by the age of majority.

It's good that you recognize you are prejudiced and why. Hopefully, you can separate personal animus from the assessment of performance, and even better- keep it in perspective with the conditions that exist in Washington politics. That battleground has a great many vicious and rabid dogs, and few that are actually honorable when not in the public view. Most who complain would feel better if Trump were a person who faked a personality they liked.... which says most people are pretty shallow. We will soon find out how shallow American have become.

 

He's right about the springs. I limit the count in my 30-round magazine to 25.