Barr authorizes Justice to probe 'substantial allegations' of voter fraud

If a Program has a proven glitch in several other states, then that is all the proof that you need for a hand recount. The Glitch has been proven a fact is Georgia, and (believe it or not) in Oakland, CA. When the numbers in Oakland was corrected, it turned out that the Democrat County Commissioner Candidate that was first announced as having won by 104 votes had actually lost to the GOP Candidate by 1,127 votes. Almost every battleground state used this same program.

Do you have a manure spreader at your house? Because you sure seem to love spreading it. Let's look at what really happened in Pennsylvania.

Court Orders Philly to Allow Elections Watchers Within 6 Feet of Vote Counters
They were previously kept at a distance that one watcher said required him to use binoculars to see anything. The city intends to take the case to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.

by VICTOR FIORILLO· 11/5/2020, 12:45 p.m.
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2020/11/05/election-watchers-philadelphia-vote-count/

It would seem that a liberal judge had ruled that as long as the poll watchers were allowed into the building, then the Commonwealth had met their legal requirements. Of course the necessity of poll watchers are to ensure transparency. Standing 15 to 20 feet away does not ensure anything close to transparency. That is why a Conservative Judged overruled the liberal judge, and allowed the watchers to move within 6' of the counters. The Commonwealth planned to take the case to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, but that never happened.

Now let's look at other states:

Michigan: Both Democrat and Republican poll watchers barred in Detroit:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-michigan-idUSKBN27K2AQ

Texas: Poll watchers in Austin forced to go into a room with supposed audio and video of the counting floor. In Dallas, Poll watchers completely barred:
https://www.law.com/texaslawyer/202...ucting-poll-watchers/?slreturn=20201012025421

Georgia: In Fulton County, the poll workers were told that the counting would stop at 10:30 PM. Then after they had all left, the counting went on until 1:00 AM.
https://www.newsbreak.com/georgia/a...rgia-in-the-spotlight-as-vote-count-continues

Shell we go on, or is that enough to show that there were problems with transparency with this election?

 

How would ballots hand stamped on the 3rd and received on the third prove the claim of the affidavit?

 

Why would a ballot post-dated the 3rd be hand stamped?

 

How would you know that it was post dated?

 

Except that there was absolutely nothing incriminating in that phone call. Even the guy on the other end, the Ukrainian President who was supposed to be the “victim” of Trump’s quid pro quo, testified that there was no wrongdoing on Trump’s part.

 

Cool. Let them do the investigations. No one is stopping them. No one is interfering. I wish the media would be patient, but otherwise, everything seems to be running quite smoothly. Trump has had a wonderful vacation while his team files rightful lawsuits on his behalf and works hard to save his legacy for him.

And if it’s determined, after many millions of dollars and man hours spent, that irregularities from mail-in ballots were no more of an issue than with walk-in balloting, in spite of a gutted USPS, I’m sure the issue over mail-in ballots can be put to rest.

 

Testified?? Did you just try to indicate Zelensky was put under oath??

His country was the victim. And I imagine when Trump is no longer POTUS, we might hear the full story..

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/11/...did-not-cause-widespread-voting-problems.html

No, your wrong on this one.

Your being beyond disingenuous:

In Detroit they were allowing dem and republican watchers in the room, just not ALL of them.

Texas, the same thing. They were allowed in, but weren't allowed to roam freely due to covid protocols.

And in Georgia, they were not forced out, they voluntarily left when the bulk of the counters left, but some counters stayed and worked thru the night and the poll watchers had left of their own accord. again, your being disingenuous

 

Your not from this country? Whether they ballots were in the post office boxes or collection boxes, they were collected by the post office. They were then put through a machine that stamps the date on it. The date of the stamp is computer generated. This is called a post date. (Note: The defination of a post date for the postal service is not the same as that of a post dated check. Two separate concepts.) A hand stamp is made by a simple device that allows the user to easily change the date. If an item arrives at the Post Office on time, it can be post dated. If a ballot arrived at the post office by 9pm November 3, as required by the Michigan Court system, then it would have been mechanically stamped. Any ballots collected on November 4th, would have to be hand stamped in violation of the Court order.

BTW, the Postal Service commonly uses hand stamping for Tax forms arriving after the Post office's close of business. This is allowed up until midnight on the day tax returns are due. But even then they have to have arrived before midnight that night. At no time is it legal for something processed on the one date to be dated for the previous date.

Does that clear up your confusion?

 

So what?

It WON'T change the result in Michigan.

 

Let's try to find a reliable, non-paywell site. Yours misses on both accounts.

I provided you sources that proved you wrong. Where are your sources? (BTW, paywell sites as sources are not in accordance with Forum rules.)

If I tell you that we are going to stop counting, and going home, what your you do? Sit around waiting to see if I'm lying, or go home? The poll watchers went took the supervisors at their word, and went home. The Supervisors lied, and continued counting without observers for another 2.5 hours. Why would they need to 2.5 hours of unobserved ballot stuffing.... Oops, I mean counting.

You posted so much without an ounce of credibility. Let's see if you can do better.

 

If the Trump legal team can their lawsuits, and get recounts in every state that had counties use that program, it just might win him the reelection. But thinks for playing.

BTW, it is not over until the SCOTUS has sang.

 

WRONG. Not a chance. Dream on.

But, since you are Dreaming (about something that has ZERO chance of actually happening)...
...Why Not DREAM BIG?

Sang what? REJECT it per curiam? Cool.

^(That is assuming that this Frivolous BS even makes it that far)

 

How did it make it that far during the 2000 Election?

 

Because a single state had a very close result and a very shitty voting system...

3 things that aren't currently present...

 

Hmmm...lemme think...

Maybe b/c it was ONE State (within 537 votes) that decided the Entire Election?

^That would be my guess.

 

In other words, you have nothing to add to the arguement except your over biased personal opinion? Why bother to post?

 

I got to every one of those sites, as did coworkers. Try again

They did not tell them that. Some people left as THEY were done counting, nobody told them they had to leave. You keep making things up to fit your narrative

 

Believe what ever fantasy you want Wally, I support your right to do that.

 

Paywall (My bad. I misspelled the word.) means a sight that you have to pay for to read the articles. NYT only allows readers to read a small number of articles before making them pay a subscription. Therefore it is a paywall sight, and a violation of rule number 11 of the Forum rules. You and your coworkers can access that articles because you either have not read your enough NYT articles to trigger the paywall, or you have paid for a subscription.

Additionally, NYT is hardly an unbiased observer of anything political. Anything they publish is unreliable at best.

Do you have a source for that claim? Every articles that I have read on what happened in Fulton County states that the Election Officials told the Republican Observers and the Media that the tabulation center would be closing after 22:30 and then after they left, resumed counting until 01:00. That is one of the reasons that Georgia has an ongoing recount going on.

Now, if you have a source that says something else please provide it. Be sure to ensure that the source is reliable and not a paywall site.

 

The article I posted wasn't behind the paywall. I literally just viewed it again today

I posted it in the post you responded to

 

That isn't an Opinion, that is a FACT.

The SCOTUS Won't Even Waste their time on this.

With the possible exception of Per Curiam Rejection.

 

Why such contempt for Democracy. Your silly posts keep blowing up in your face.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics...tory-trump-biden-burnett-opening-ebof-vpx.cnn
"Most secure ever:' Trump officials contradict his election claims"
"The Department of Homeland Security issued a statement saying the November 3rd, 2020, election was the most secure election in history".
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...al-irregularities/ar-BB1aZLeD?ocid=msedgdhpWP.
"Federal prosecutors assigned to monitor election malfeasance tell Barr they see no evidence of substantial irregularities"
"Sixteen assistant U.S. attorneys specially assigned to monitor malfeasance in the 2020 election urged Attorney General William P. Barr on Friday to rescind his recent memorandum allowing investigators to publicly pursue allegations of “vote tabulation irregularities"

 

Michigan: Republicans and Democrats equally barred

Texas: both sides watched the feed

Georgia: do we have proof that is actually the case other than a person's word?

Sounds like nitpicky stuff that could probably be done in every election and you and some Republicans seem to be operating in a reality where there isnt a pandemic raging

 

Isnt what's happening in Georgia an audit that has to be done every so often not a recount?