Barr authorizes Justice to probe 'substantial allegations' of voter fraud

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  1. rkhames

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    We are only partially in agreement. You have claimed that there was not a recount going on in Georgia, and that it was just an audit. I disproved your statement. There is a recount going on in Georgia that they hope will be completed by November 20th. That is the deadline for the Sec of State to certify the election results. On the 11th, Raffesperger stated that he would use the same Presidential race to fulfill the requirement for an audit. That does not mean that an audit is the only thing being conducted. The counters will count each ballot by hand. At the same time, randomly selected ballots will be checked against the originally recorded count to ensure that the vote went to the Candidate that it was intended. Two processes being completed at the same time. But the important point is that both an audit and hand recount is going on in Georgia at this time.

    Now, are we on the same page now?
     
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    You are confusing me with another poster, as I never once claimed there wasn't a recount going on in Georgia....

    It's a recount and an audit...

    The recount MUST be completed by this Friday. It's not a hope situation...
     
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    You stated "Decides to "look at it", and then Rejects it Per Curiam"

    In your sentence, "Per Curiam" is an adverb. The adverb definition is:

    per curiam
    [ˌpər ˈkyo͝orēəm]
    ADVERB
    1. by decision of a judge, or of a court in unanimous agreement.
    I am sure you are talking about the Court issuing a single decision without discussion, but to do that, it much be based on a unanimous decision. If a Justice disagrees then the court ruling, then there must be a discussion of the decision and allow those that disagree state why they disagree. So, it is you that should research the terms that you use. Not I said the Fly!!!

    That statement is based on what?
     
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    Then talk to me when you have you have read more then the number of free articles that they allow. Then tell me what happens. BTW, I have backed everything that I have said with articles. If your claim has merit, then there should be other non-NYT sources that you can provide. Otherwise, you have no leg to stand on.
     
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    Do you have a source to support the claim that only a random audit, and not a fill by hand recount is going on in Georgia?
     
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    All states that used the same counting program that has shown glitches in the past and present.

    The cases will be rejected by the local courts. They will then be appealed. Then which ever side loses the appeal, they will appeal to the Federal Courts. Then the Federal appeals courts, and eventually to the SCOTUS. The Gore case was heard by the SCOTUS twice in 2000.
     
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    Nothing is on that track so far. I have not heard that trump has appealed any of the cases he has lost.

    I would be surprised if anything even gets close to SCOTUS. Trump’s lawsuits are a joke and won’t be pursued. It’s all theatre to convince gullible people that there is some doubt about the outcome of the election.
     
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    I have voted 3 times this year IN PERSON and there have been NO PROBLEMS associated with in person voting.


    A local official saying there was no fraud is not a debunking. Why do you oppose looking at all these from an independent investigation rather than simple denials by the persons running them? Let's debunk them all. If you think there was NO fraud they you should have no problem with that. But these sworn affidavits need to be looked at not by the local officials but independent bodies to see exactly what did or did not happened and things that did how we can avoid them in the future.

    What exactly is your problem with that?
     
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    I predict Trump will lose the presidency and Biden is the next president of the U.S. This is a silly ridiculous thread based on denial and anger. Trump keeps losing and you seem to get off on it. You're supporting a psycho president who cant face the fact that there are 10million hospital cases in the U.S. due to Coronavirus on his watch and who can't face the fact that he lost the U.S. election. You get excited by a failed president who is damaging democracy by not allowing Biden the critically needed intelligence briefings he should have before stepping into the presidency and by not cooperating with the badly needed transition. process. You know that Trump won't win so now you aim your anger and bitterness toward the American people and the institute of Democracy itself.
    Even as Trump's losses mount up you take it out on America and Democracy.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/16/trump-backers-drop-biden-vote-challenge-case-in-wisconsin.html
    Trump backers drop Wisconsin vote challenge lawsuit, another setback in bid to undo Biden win


    https://www.chicagotribune.com/elec...0201116-bvqxlfgqifgh3fc7k4npo5bu44-story.html
    TRUMP DROPS CENTRAL ALLEGATION IN P.A. 682,479 NOT TOSSED
     
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    ROFLMAO........oh you went out on a limb on that one.

    Now go back and read what I actually said in my post or did it just go over your head? It's not about over turning the vote for Trump and there were thousands of other close elections around the country. It's about all the reports of irregularities that could have affected those and then our future election integrity. This election was a serious joke in the manner in which it as held, the manner in which millions of ballots were mass mailed to unverified voters and address, his they were received back and how local officials and courts unconstitutionally wee changing the rules of the election. As I cited the NYT mail in and absentee voting are the two MAIN avenues for voter fraud then you addbin the admitted problems cause by poll workers and the lack of accountability and tracing......yeah we need a joint congressional committee to look into these problems and each of these states where we did have problems need to engage in full transparancy.
     
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    So millions of elderly and vulnerable Americans who don't want to stand in line should base life and death decisions on your suspect statement:roflol: You are definitively in a zone beyond reality.



    Just because sick Trump is in denial about losing the presidency doesn't mean we destroy democracy just to get at Biden. There's nothing to debunk accept Trumps psycho fantasy.

    This is pure B.S.The Justice Department is not an independent body it is part of the Executive branch and hack Barr is not independent in the least. He volunteered for his job by sending papers to Trump's lawyers stating that Mueller's investigation was flawed but he wasn't the AG at the time

    I've never claimed anything based on 1 local official but we both know honesty is not your strong point. The fact is you're basing everything you say on a demented president. Trump lacks the sheer guts to admit there are 10 million Americans with covid-19 on his watch and you think that's perfectly ok. You like the idea that Trump is tearing apart democracy by failing to give President elect Biden the critical needed daily briefings he requires before stepping into the president. Trump won't help Biden's transition teem. All of this pleases you.

    Here are my last to posts none of them are based on your angry outrageous statement that I use only 1 local official Trump keeps pulling back on lawsuit claims while you coddle a president in sick denial.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/16/trump-backers-drop-biden-vote-challenge-case-in-wisconsin.html
    Trump backers drop Wisconsin vote challenge lawsuit, another setback in bid to undo Biden win

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/elec...0201116-bvqxlfgqifgh3fc7k4npo5bu44-story.html

    TRUMP DROPS CENTRAL ALLEGATION IN P.A. 682,479 NOT TOSSED



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    Trump is the one sweeping the entire election under the rug.

    99% of Trumps lawsuits have lost or have dropped significant claims once again proving this thread is Coddling Trumps fantasies. The Justice department is not an independent body looking into this. It is part of the executive branch and AG Barr is absolutely a Trump crony

    The way he got his position. . was that he sent pages to Trumps lawyers stating that Mueller's case was flawed. This is the first time in modern presidential history that a an AG ruled on a case without being AG. There is no real independent body looking into the Trumps false claims. There is only Trumps denial which is why he spent 6 days hiding away in the White House after the results of the election came out. We no longer have a normal president functioning in the White House. He simply cannot face the fact that there are 10 million hospitalizations due to coronavirus on his watch and ignores this fact completely..
     
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    He is the one exercising his right to contest elections just as Gore did for 37 days. The DOJ Voting Rights and Civil Rights investigations are not to overturn the election. They are to follow up on the allegations of irregularities in the elections and find out as best you can in an election, and that is not very well once the ballots have been counted so that the American people can be assured the integrity of our elections have not been damaged by this process of just overload the voting district with blank ballots and receiving them back, where they are from that point out of the hands of the voter, under dubious processes. That HAS to be investigated before we go any further into this and as I cited even the NYT from page article clearly showed the mail in and absentee are the most fraught with fraud systems. And of course SCOTUS is still waiting to deal with the constitutional interference in the elections process by judges and local officials.

    And this is not about Mueller but if you are going to bring him that investigation lasted over 2 years and was NEVER based on any sworn testimony of truthful information.
     
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    I am elderly and vulnerable and those who had problems where I vote walked right in the front, we even helped them, and were out in no time. And we have meet the requirements and request an absentee for those rare cases where they cannot come in to vote. Voting was NOT a life or death decision anymore than going to the store or the doctor and probably less so. So stop with the hyperbole and canards.

    And BTW we had our results that night and I have read on not a single case of a voter suppression claim or people unable to vote and we have seen no outbreak that can be associated with voting. But what if your neighbor was carrying COVID, and they coughed on their hands as the sealed the envelope for their rent check and put it in the mailbox and the carrier picked it up and then picked up your mail and put it in your box and then you touched it. That's you possibly getting it, the carrier possibly getting in and spreading it for up to an hour or more.



    Barr is not working to overturn the election for Trump, as the Head of the DOJ and the Civil Rights Div and it's Voting Rights Div he preauthorized investigations into any claims of voter
    disenfranchisement. He didn't even order a specific case be investigation. All he did was streamline to process because such investigations can be time sensitive and need to be started as close to the certification dates as possible. And with the huge numbers of reported irregularities and problems seen with officials without constitutional authority interfering that investigation and the PA case heading to the SCOTUS need to play out.

    What do you have against ensuring the integrity of our elections like how do we stop dead people from voting when we have clear evidence we have many such votes?
     
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    Stop with your truly other wordly remarks. You're embarrassing yourself. People throughout the country had to unwillingly wait in long lines to vote. You truly are on mars. Nobody cares about your stupid experience. The entire point of vote by mail was to avoid standing in line with others who may have had the virus. That is the only way you can have 100% insurance that you would never contract the virus from other voters.. Trump throws super spreader events and makes is own rallies mask optional. Trump tore into vote by mail knowing that millions did not want to face the slightest chance of getting infected while standing in line. That is their absolute right. Trump is an azzhole who couldn't protect himself or his wife. and his staff from the virus. for the same reason he won't admit he lost. He's in denial and think he's invulnerable from disease and you like that quality in him. You're not fooling anyone but yourself
    Lol so just because you didn't read about it in your right wing literature doesn't mean it didn't hapen.n claim or people unable to vote and we have seen no outbreak that can be associated with voting.
    the carrier possibly getting in and spreading it for up to an hour or more.[/QUOTE] I can see you really are intellectually void of knowledge when it comes to Covid-19. Duh! its very hard to get Covid-19 from inanimate objects especially paper. There are very few reports of catching covid from paper. You get it from touching people or from someone talking, sneezing and coughing near you. or not washing your hand. Once again Trump is a major azzhole to get his wife and himself sick and to create rallies that are super spreader events. 99% of. You lack the courage to face the fact that Trump is sick and in denial. He can't face the fact that he already lost the election and neither can you. We both know that he pretends that 10 million hospitalized doesn't exist. You have no courage to face the facts.





    This is purley Trump in denial. 99% of Trump's suits are lost and others wind up withdrawing most of the charges. Trump is dangerously refusing to give Biden the critical daily briefings and is refusing to cooperate with a transition and you don't have the courage to admit it. We both know he's doing it out of spite and denial and anger/ We both know he's unfit to be president.
     
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    Stop with the bromides and platitudes and multiple different formats on your post, they will not be read.

    And it's not about Trump it's about the integrity of our elections and ensuring that integrity has not been compromised by these out of control voting schemes. Learn the difference.
     
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    Once again you make statements that can't be backed up with evidence. Trumps so called affidavits are hear-say. You can't over turn an election because rightwing poll watchers decide that THEIR counterparts seem to be on the left. You'RE using hearsay and the biased opinions of right wing/conservative poll watchers to overturn an election. Trump want's the investigation to go on forever. At what point is there an end in site for these frivolous accusations made by disgruntled rightwing poll watchers. Neither you nor Trump have decided when when this stupidity with "lying Trumpian poll watchers comes to an end. That's by design. Trump could carry on with this for months. This is fictional "Self righteousness that is pure stalling tactic in an effort to do nothing more that coddle a completely sick Trump who can't face the reality of his election loss and this is a fact you ignore time after time. Just like a sicko Trump can't face or acknowledge the 10 million hospitalizations due to coronavirus on his watch. There is no end in sight to the number of rightwing poll watchers and their biased and fictional observations and this is all being done purely to stop a legitimate election Trump is too sick and disabled to accept. Tell us when this ends??
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommyb...hers-were-banned-thats-a-lie/?sh=598c04b144da
    FORBES
    Trump And Allies Keep Claiming Republican Poll Watchers Were Banned—That’s A Lie
     
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    You're the one confused over the Trump campaign and the DOJ not me. Why do you assert voting irregularities should not be investigated by the DOJ's Civil Rights Voting Rights Division? And sworn affidavits of witnessed events are not hearsay, do get your definitions clear.
     
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    Here are the facts. . Trump in his denial has yet to say anything about his election loss.
    Trump makes outright lies about the election poll watchers without proof as shown below

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommyb...hers-were-banned-thats-a-lie/?sh=6169167044da
    "Trump And Allies Keep Claiming Republican Poll Watchers Were Banned—That’s A Lie"

    Trump started claiming before the election that the left wing (meaning democrats) would steel the election without proof.
    https://www.alternet.org/2020/11/trumps-call-for-an-army-of-poll-watchers-is-fall-flat-so-far/
    "At a September campaign rally in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, the president encouraged his audience to be poll watchers. “Watch all the thieving and stealing and robbing they do," he said. “Because this is important."
    So trump already sounded the call for right wing poll watchers to emphasize stealing and thievery against democrats way before the election.
    Due to Trumps prompting we have hundreds upon hundreds of purely biased republican poll watchers making frivolous bizarre claims by the hundreds.
    Thus trump can keep up his bizarre false claims without end. There is no point at which the hundreds upon hundred of false right wing claims can end so Trump can undermine the legitimate election indefinitely.
    Trump is undermining the nation because this psycho is not cooperating with Biden's transition process and refusing to give Biden the critically needed daily intelligence fact and over and over you refuse to admit to these fact. It's all a scam and you fool no one.

    Your holier than thou attitude that this is all being done in honesty is in itself just a pretense.
    And you don't have the where-with-all to refute any of this. You yourself have no idea in the least where Trumps B.S. claims can end


     
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    Let's have the full investigations, I don't care what Trump says stop falling back on him. We have two counties so far in key states refusing to certify their results because of the irregularities. We have key cases going to the SCOTUS about unconstitutional acts by Governors, SecStates, Judges and local officials. And Biden's transition can begin when the results are finalized. He already said he didn't need the briefings and ran on the fact he was so experienced he would hit the ground running and he has his own COVID task force he believes in more than Trumps. Give him back the candidate briefings but the fact Gore held it up for 37 days and that was not problem makes all the Dems hyperbole ring hollow. And BTW if you can show me where the current administration is working in cahoots with the RNC and using the CIA and FBI to get the presidency won denied hopefully before he is sworn in but having that "insurance policy" to get him removed waiting I'll be happy to look at it.
     
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    Your statement about the CIA once again shows you're on a another planet I never once said anything about the CIA or the FBI (who wouldn't go along with his cockamamie schemes to begin with) so you make no sense. . Also your pouring out B.S. about what Biden wants in terms of intelligence briefings. He's stated over and over again hat he needs them now. Once again you show your frivolous lack of care and concern for the Country by stating Biden's transition can begin late in the day. With a transition the faster the better so the president elect can have this critical process mostly over with as soon as he steps into office. Once again you are in deep denial like the president. ignoring the fact that this sicko president was planning to challenge what he called "all the thieving and stealing and robbing they (the Democrats do," )" way before the election. He prompted his poll watchers to look for this way before the election started. Once again you drink in Trumps poison.


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommyb...hers-were-banned-thats-a-lie/?sh=6169167044da

    "Trump And Allies Keep Claiming Republican Poll Watchers Were Banned—That’s A Lie"

    10-17-22

    Trump started claiming before the election that left wing poll watchers (meaning democrats) would steel the election without proof.

    https://www.alternet.org/2020/11/trumps-call-for-an-army-of-poll-watchers-is-fall-flat-so-far/
    "At a September campaign rally in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, the president encouraged his audience to be poll watchers. “Watch all the thieving and stealing and robbing they do," he said. “Because this is important."


    So trump already sounded the call for right wing poll watchers to emphasize stealing and thievery against democrats way before the election.

    Due to Trumps prompting we have hundreds upon hundreds of purely biased republican poll watchers making frivolous bizarre claims by the hundreds.

    Thus trump can keep up his bizarre false claims without end. There is no point at which the hundreds upon hundred of false right wing claims can end so Trump can undermine the legitimate election indefinitely.

    Trump is undermining the nation because this psycho is not cooperating with Biden's transition process and refusing to give Biden the critically needed daily intelligence fact and over and over you refuse to admit to these fact. It's all a scam and you fool no one.
    And you don't have the where-with-all to refute any of this. You yourself have no idea in the least where Trumps B.S. claims can end




     
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    No doubt Trump is like an ex soviet official. He hates Democracy so much that he kicks out officials merely for telling the Truth and busting his non stop fiction that this election is a fraud. He's fired more cabinet and department heads than any 2 presidents combined. Like Trump you absolutely adore these ex soviet ex KGB officials like Putin.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...hris-krebs-called-election-secure/6276676002/
    "The Department of Homeland Security's cyber chief, who presided over an elaborate election security effort guarding against foreign interference and fraud, was ousted by President Donald Trump on Tuesday as part of a continuing post-election purge of top national security officials.
    Trump announced the dismissal in a tweet Tuesday night.'
    "The dismissal of Christopher Krebs, director of DHS's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, follows the agency's declaration that the general election was the most secure in U.S. history."
     
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    Horseshit. In every Court all over the western world, every week day, Affidavits are sworn, filed and on many occasions, rejected as wholly hearsay, or have the hearsay parts struck out.
     
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    Sure. Here you go.
    As you'll read, the audit is required by law and incidentally is not a "random audit". It's an audit with a "random sample".

    Georgia audit to trigger hand tally of presidential vote

    [SNIPPED] ATLANTA — Georgia's secretary of state on Wednesday [Nov 11] announced an audit of presidential election results
    that he said would be done with a full hand tally of ballots because the margin is so tight.

    State law requires an audit but leaves it up to the top elections official to choose the race. Secretary of State Brad
    Raffensperger said at a news conference that the presidential race makes the most sense.....

    The audit is a new requirement put in place by a law passed in 2019 that also provided for the new voting machines
    purchased last year. The state has chosen to do a risk-limiting audit, which involves checking a random sample of ballots
    by hand against results produced by vote-tallying equipment for accuracy. In such audits, the smaller the margin between
    candidates in a race, the larger the sample of ballots that must initially be audited.

    Raffensperger said the tight margin means that the audit will effectively result in a full hand recount...

    Once the results from the audit are certified, the losing campaign can then request that recount, which will be done using
    scanners that read and tally the votes, Raffensperger said.

    https://www.startribune.com/georgia-audit-to-trigger-hand-recount-of-presidential-vote/573040921/

    Quick-grab of additional reading:

    EXPLAINER: Is Georgia’s upcoming ballot ‘audit’ a recount?

    https://apnews.com/article/ap-explains-georgia-audit-or-recount-9adf1d0ed50f8788572b4f7e0f04027e

    Georgia to conduct 'risk limiting audit' before certifying election winner
    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...iting-audit-before-certifying-election-winner

    Georgia to run audit of election results - The Fulcrum
    https://thefulcrum.us/voting/georgia-election-audit

    Georgia counties must start hand count audit by Friday morning. Here's how it works.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/geo...-count-audit-friday-morning/story?id=74175628
     
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    I think rkhames is confusing you with me.

    We're having a convo on the recount/audit thing. Contrary to what they believe, Georgia's having (well, had) an audit, not a recount. Something they have to do by law and usually conducted on a sample but the smaller the margin between candidates, the larger the sample needs to be. It was easier just to do the whole lot, hence often reported as a "recount". Plus, Raffensperger naturally hoped it would suffice as such, for the Trump camp - so yes, in that sense it's doing double duty.

    An actual recount can be requested after certification, and that would be done by machine, not hand. (It's by hand for the audit to check against the machines.)

    Anyway, I gave them explanatory links, in #424.
     
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