Biden's Mouthpiece on Coronavirus Advocates National Lockdown

Joe Biden has assembled his Coronavirus task force and Dr. Michael Osterholm is apparently the public face for it.

Over the last few days, he has been all over the networks saying essentially the same thing; that the spread of the virus is going to get worse and has been advocating a national lockdown much more strict than what we have seen. He is referencing Australia, New Zealand and China as examples.

Here is an example of what he's been saying.



He keeps referencing a New York Times piece he co-authored back in August in which he advocates a national lockdown. In that piece, he uses the number of 39% of workers being truly essential during a lockdown.

To successfully drive down our case rate to less than one per 100,000 people per day, we should mandate sheltering in place for everyone but the truly essential workers. By that, we mean people must stay at home and leave only for essential reasons: food shopping and visits to doctors and pharmacies while wearing masks and washing hands frequently. According to the Economic Policy Institute, 39 percent of workers in the United States are in essential categories. The problem with the March-to-May lockdown was that it was not uniformly stringent across the country. For example, Minnesota deemed 78 percent of its workers essential. To be effective, the lockdown has to be as comprehensive and strict as possible.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ny...onavirus-lockdown-unemployment-death.amp.html

So, what do we do with 61% unemployment? He seems to think it's easily doable. What about the other sociatal/economic costs of a strict national lockdown? This seems to be where we're headed if Biden gets his way.

 

I think he’ll have an uphill battle to accomplish this. There doesn’t seem to be a uniform wish to get the virus under control.
Waiting for a vaccine appears to be the favoured method but there is a lot of opposition to this too.

 

Biden has made his position clear: Use social distancing and above all wear masks.

The trouble is that a large percentage of trumpers refuse to cooperate. And even liberals are tiring of the constraints and getting lazy.

As of right now, we expect to see more than 3000 Covid deaths a day in the US by Jan.

 

Having someone go on all the news channels and advocate strict lockdown with an accompanying 61% unemployment is a just a bit removed from social distance/wear a mask, wouldn't you say?

 

Today, U.S. “Currently Hospitalized” will surpass last 2 wave peaks;

Fall Wave

10 Nov;
09 Nov; 59,275
08 Nov; 56,799

Summer Wave

23 Jul; 59,718

First Wave

21 Apr; 59,780

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Everyone gets paid 40k a year to stay home.

Cool

 

“a year”???????

Irrational response.

Several EU nations have recently and NATIONALLY lockdown their non-essentials for one month, and then, evaluate.

Main reasons:

a. Reduce the positivity rate
b. Reduce daily cases
c. Reduce Hospitalizations

And/or prevent a health care crisis

Note; It doesn’t take a year to significantly reduce all of the above.


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And if anything you said was related to facts you might have a point.


But if it makes you feel better to be filled with irrational fear and panic, that is your choice. Some people just live life in constant fear of bogie men.

 

What a complete surprise that Germ Slayer Joe would advocate for a national lockdown!

 

It could be entertaining as well. Such a lockdown would see everyone in the streets rioting, displaying some national unity. Frankly that isn't any entertainment I welcome.

 

If that were to come to pass, the rioting and civil disobedience would warm my heart. It would renew my faith in mankind, at least to some degree. When tyranny is abroad, submission is a crime, especially when the tyranny is brought under fraud.

 

oh yea,

 

To put a super fine point on your comment, it's utter BS. I live in a pretty red state, and the only folks I ever see non masked are typical entitled democrats running around the cities Most folks you see everywhere else are wearing masks. And our numbers demonstrate this. As the large outbreaks are where democrats in the cities are running around ignoring the mask mandates. Like they ignore every other law that burdens them.

 

If it gets as bad as it looks like it's gonna get we will have 61% unemployment and it will last longer because people won't go out anyway.
How many of the people you know are working from home right now?

 

Well, we'll just have to thank sleepy Joe for that, won't we?

 

Yes, it’s the approach that most first world industrialized countries took to one degree or another.

Every single one of them vastly outperformed the United States, which never locked down, implemented the thinnest relief package and allowed that to expire, and whose leader(s) undermined their own task force’s message and actively encouraged politicians to ignore thier own reccomendations.

So, we already know that approach works. No need to waste your time with links to tweets from anonymous crackpots claiming otherwise.

 

My OP contained a video of the man the incoming Biden administration trotted out to all the news talk shows and a New York Times opinion piece that same man co-authored.

Not a tweet in sight. Now, this guy may be a crackpot (your word), but is hardly anonymous. His name is Michael Osterholm.

 

I know who Micheal Osterholm is.

No, you didn’t get the facts from twitter.

You made up the notion that we will have economic collapse with 61% unemployment. I have no doubt that this is a meme in right wing talk radio about now.

Of course, this discounts the effects of any relief package.

Right wingers don’t want to talk about that, because their outgoing wannabe fuhrer opposes it (or wants to do better, depends on which camera he is facing). And they’ll go hungry (literally) before they give “the other side” anything, especially when it’s obviously the right thing to do.

 

Quote me on that or admit you're just making crap up.

Here is what I said said regarding that (from my OP).

"So, what do we do with 61% unemployment? He seems to think it's easily doable. What about the other sociatal/economic costs of a strict national lockdown? This seems to be where we're headed if Biden gets his way."

Oh, look, no mention of economic collapse from me! Run along now, and find someone else to use as a foil for your talking points.

 

And, on a tangentially related point, boy does that guy have a punchable face. Nothing against him, just plain punchable.