IT'S OVER: Biden defeats Trump as US voters take the rare step to remove an incumbent president

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    Shonyman32 Well-Known Member

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    I dont know how but this video explains it better. I'm curious as to how as well and I can not explain it.
     
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    The left wont care about the evidence even if trump wins somehow. They dont care about fair or equality at all and are literally supporting the division of america. If trump doesnt win that's perfectly acceptable as long as he loses fair and square. There has been to many voting irregularities to say this election is fraudless without investigation.
     
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    Cry about what. Biden will take the oath of office.
     
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    No, the judges choose to ignore it. Because it's not evidence or real
     
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    So I watched the video for a while. He starts off with falsehoods so it was too annoying to continue past 6 minutes. His premises are based on a low voter turnout in Detroit and a much higher one in surrounding communities. Did you not notice that in Detroit none of the absentee ballots were included but all were included in surrounding areas. Did you then notice that the surrounding areas had only slightly higher in person voting than Detroit?
     
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    Did you happen to see that the affidavit Rudy was flashing during his presser had the precincts in Michigan over voting wrong?
    Turns out the precincts were from Minnesota not Michigan and the actual Minnesota numbers did not show any over voting. That affidavit has presumably been withdrawn from their latest hail Mary court case.
     
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    It's not the left you need to convince. It's the courts. Apparently, there is no evidence. The irregularities have been investigated and corrected. A case of fraud has been discovered. "Too many" is an uninformed opinion. We don't investigate opinions.
     
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    I dont believe he had falsehoods in it. You may have not enjoyed the humor or the topic but I dont believe there were falsehoods like your claiming. I noticed what you said but how is that important where in wayne county it was extremely out of balance.
     
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    In these Detroit City precincts there was a 15-20% turnout without counting mail in ballots.
    In these nearby precincts the turnout was 70-85% including mail in ballots 20-25% without them.
    Huge difference!!!! Fraud!!!!Stop the election. It's plain as the nose on your face!!!! Trump won!!!!!

    You've been played.
     
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    The main point I brought this up for was at time stamp 8:45 and asked if someone could explain that. I never once claimed fraud about this, I questioned it. Quit your games and tomfoolery.
     
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    I agree with you 100% but fraud must be investigated fully when it is shown.
     
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    As opposed to CNN, MSNBC, and even FOX NEWS who are all owned by billionaires who have dedicated the news organizations they own to getting a Democrat, ANY Democrat elected.
    Why is it on those networks the Democrat party can do no wrong but Republicans are ALWAYS wrong?
     
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    I've offered wondered that myself. Why do conservative media always get it wrong? Are they trying to?
     
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    I'm not going to watch more of the video for the simple reason it's opening segment was false. More of the same does not interest me. If there is something specific at 8:45 by all means tell me what it is and I'll be happy to respond.
     
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    What are your expectations from this "new area?" Note: This is a serious question. Hopefully you can provide a serious answer as I want to try to understand opinions that differ from mine.

    I have to be honest. I don't have great expectations. IMHO Biden is a pale shadow (no pun intended) of his former boss Obama. At least with Obama we had a little charisma.
     
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    I don't disagree, but it depends on whether you want charisma from the POTUS. I don't. I want character and pragmatism, and Biden tops Obama on both. And after 4 years of a charisma filled, character free administration, a little quiet time will be welcomed by me.
     
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    Thanks for a serious answer.
     
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    Anytime bro. We can have fun and be serious around here. I don't agree with your positions, but your arguments are reasonable. Once you strip away the snark, of course. :)
     
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    This is the end of Trumpism.

    Trumpism is:

    1- Building and maintaining a cult of personality

    2- To govern only for the voters who support you by demonizing your opponents.

    3- To seek only loyalty among your collaborators to the detriment of competence or integrity (normalizing nepotism).

    4- Never admit your mistakes and/or systematically blame someone else.

    5- Apply an isolationist policy both strategically and commercially.

    6- Retain power at all costs even if it means weakening democratic institutions, and government agencies (FBI, CIA, NSA and outs the judges appointed by his predecessor)

    7- Normalize xenophobia, conspiracy theories, mistrust of science and "elites".

    Charisma is a double-edged sword.

    When he is a good man (Obama), he can move the country towards an ideal.

    When he is a demagogue (Trump), he can set the nation back 25 years and even make democracy waver.

    Right now, someone - a moderate - is needed to clean up the mess.

    No more than that.

    And that's three in a row of voters choosing a Democrat to pick up the crap left behind by a Republican.
     
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    Soooo, CNN, MSNBC & FOX NEWS are conservative? Explain please?
     
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    I didn't say that
     
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    I got that, I asked you to explain because I don’t understand your response.
    Please explain??
     
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    This is a hoax. The only one trying to steal the election is trump. THAT’S the scandal.

    Of course there are irregularities and even fraud. In every state, just like in every election - but not enough to change the outcome. This election has been determined to be the most secure in the nation’s history, by trump’s own administration.

    The allegations of widespread fraud are false. Biden won by more in 2020 than trump did in 2016. Think about that. The only way this could be the result of fraud is if there really were a deep and wide and successful conspiracy to to change the actual ballots. There is not a single shred of evidence that there was such a conspiracy. None.

    Irregularities? Sure. As always.

    But the lies that trump is spewing, and his supporters are repeating, are the kind of lies we see in banana republics. It is pathetic that he is trying this and scary that so many people believe him.
     
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    What’s scary is some people believe that Biden will unite or even save the country.
    Biden is a temporary puppet until President Harris is sworn in, then what? Have you seen what’s happened to the state she was a senator of?
    People are fleeing California at alarming rates.
    What’s going to happen when she enforces her policies on the whole country?
    Illegals, socialized healthcare, the new green deal. How are they going to pat for all that?
    Your taxes.
    Do you really think your taxes are going up just a little bit?

    We all know there was voter fraud in this election. It’s just obvious to anyone with common sense.
    What’s that saying? Turnabouts fair play.
     
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    More hoaxes, more Trump and Russian disinformation.

    I already said there is voter fraud - just like in every election. The lie that you are helping to spread is that there was enough this time around to change the outcome.

    There is one unalterable fact, and I’ll put it in caps so you don’t miss it: TRUMP’S ADMINISTRATION HAS DECLARED THIS ELECTION THE MOST SECURE IN THE NATION’S HISTORY.
     
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