The Supreme Court is running the clock on Trump's election lawsuits, experts say

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uneducated people think government can stop a virus.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL. Clueless is the definition of your post.
     
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    Still flogging that dead orange horse, eh?
     
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    Gosh. Isn't "what he meant to say" a standard that the left have been ignoring or otherwise using to castigate Trump with? And here we have what looks like a moment where Joe's dementia took over, and he was so lost, he said something actually quite damaging to the nation. he's on record saying he organized fraud. There is no rage here. This is actually dangerous. But you'll excuse it, why again? Biden has said some of the most horrific things a public servant ever has. "you're not black". being among them. You know he actually meant that, right?
     
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    So much fun, you pasted it again. See what happens. I suspect it will enrage you.
     
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    So, suddenly, context matters? And for the record, Biden did actually say what he is documented saying. You can try to quibble over did he mean to say it or not. He did still say it. Which is kind of entirely different from the standard that the left used against trump where they continue to insist that Trump is a racist, and ignore the context of the quote, "fine people on each side", even after he went to pains to suggest he was condemning white supremacy and hate groups like the shadow NDP groups like the KKK.. But sure, now you want us to be concerned with context.
     
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    Statement absent fact. I call this 5 pinochios. A new low, even for you.
     
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    I can't answer for anyone else but myself, but context always matters to me. I actually agree with you on the Charlotte thing as far as Trump's statement. He was trying to say that there were good people who just wanted the statues to be left alone. However, he really didn't do a very good job of explaining himself, AND he didn't really come out as clearly condemning said hate groups. If you think he went to pains to make that clear, you're fooling yourself. Why didn't he? I don't think he was as racist as he was concerned about not offending certain voter blocks that went for him in the 2016 election. Trump does consider himself better than black people. He considers himself better than almost all people though. By definition, he is at least a mild racist, but he is a narcisist
     
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    Oops, hit the "post button" accidently.
    Anyway, these are some of the reasons I thought he made a terrible president. Words do matter when coming from the President of the United States mouth, or fingers in Trump's case. A president needs to be clear on his articulation, and Trump is not, due to his barely average intelligence. Trump is not super smart, and an awful lot of the issues he had as president were rooted in this problem.
    So, if you watch that entire interview with Biden, and you conclude that what he's saying is that he actually put together the best team for committing voter fraud, then there's no help for you.
    Just for the record, I held my nose and voted for Clinton. I didn't like her, but I disliked Trump even more. After he won, I hoped I was wrong and he would make at least a decent president. I watched and listened, but I was wrong. However, he really didn't screw things up as bad as he could have, but the bar is extremely low.
    Trump is by far the worst president in my lifetime, which began in 1961. I doubt you want my advice, but I would say at least give Biden a chance, and keep in mind no president is going to do everything perfect in everyone's eyes. It isn't possible.
     
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    Australia's government did a fine job at doing just that.
     
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    Really? No one got sick or died? Fascinating.
     
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    Did I state that? Or did you just build that strawman all by yourself?

    Tell me, is Australia shut down right now? What's their case and death count currently?

    You won't look because it's painfully obvious you are ok with our soon to be replaced POTUS ****ing it up so badly.
     
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    Some are not aware of demographics and think government can stop a virus. Some are not aware of the actions of some democrats that exacerbated the issue like putting Covid patients in nursing homes.
     
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    No the fun is watching your favorite candidate lose 100% court cases while you fume.
     
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    I don't want the politics and the sabatage, but I do want that video of him being 'escorted' out of the building and into a car while protesters throw rotten fruit.
     
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    I'd prefer a horsedrawn wagon on his way to the guillotine myself...
     
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    Uneducated people think the best way to stop a virus is by pretending the virus doesn't exist and allow it to spread to 10 million cases. .
     
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    I could explain this AGAIN, that is was based on federal nursing regulations impacting medicare and medicare patients and facilities that are certified to take them but who's left to teach that is willing to listen. Hospitals are not designed to be quarrantine facilities to hold infected people away from their homes. They are designed to treat critically ill acute patients and send them back home. The rules demand that residents be admitted for treatment and then released to go back to the lowest level of appropriate care as soon as possible and the rules do not include language waiving that provision for public health needs broader than that patient. I hope CPS Medicaid/ Medicare nursing guidelines now include a waiver for hospitals to hold on to these patients until the infection window is closed, but Nursing Homes were expected to handle the protocals for an infectious patient with C-diff, or MRSA in Rm 107 without risking cross contamination prior to this pandemic. This just was a whole new magnitude and these nursing homes were simply unequipped for the scope and danger of this virus. That did not change the language in the guidelines that both the Hospitals and Nursing homes were looking at during the discharge/admit process to decide when to release. Nor did it reflect in the need to keep hospital beds available for more critically ill patients who needed hospital level care.

    Or the real worry this language was addressing. Medicare and medicaid fraud are all about keeping patients in a hospital or nursing home longer than they need to be, using services that they don't need to justify the re-imbursements and to keep that tax money flowing inside your building. This language says that is a no-no, you have to send them back when it is medically safe to do so. And that meant safe for THEM.
     
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    A few years back we could have had a pillory or a stoning for the public to enjoy!
     
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    I also love the tar & feathers...
     
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    Trump is done!
     
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    Once again making excuses for a loser president with right wing zeal
    And some are not aware that psycho-Trump has been ignoring what's been happening in the country for months on end and is in total shock that there are 10million cases of the virus in this country. He's too debilitated to do anything about the 10million plus cases of coronavirus and now he's obsessed with stealing an election he lost to Biden. His court cases regarding the election are at 100% failure. Why would anyone support a sick impotent president completely out of touch with reality.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-leadership/index.html


    Yet there are no warnings from the President -- who got the best health care that the US can offer when he fell sick with Covid-19 last month. He could use his megaphone to tell Americans to take care, wear masks and maintain social distancing to limit the spread of a pandemic that he minimized before the election.

    Trump is not alone in his neglect. Vice President Mike Pence is the head of the White House coronavirus task force but has held no public briefings in weeks -- though he did huddle with the team this week. As a result, there are no directives from the West Wing on how Americans can mitigate the many thousands of deaths expected before Biden, who has made tackling the virus his priority, takes office.


    While Trump and Pence are silent on the pandemic, the coronavirus task force has continued to update states on the dire situation.

    "There is continued, accelerating community spread across the top half of the country, where temperatures have cooled and Americans have moved indoors," said reports dated November 8 and distributed to states Tuesday evening.

    The task force, which warned of "significant deterioration in the Sunbelt" in last week's reports, said that deterioration has only continued in the past week, "leading to the most diffuse spread experienced to date."

    The reports told states that "proactive testing" must be part of mitigation efforts. That sentence was stunning in itself, since the kind of mass testing and tracing operation that was needed at the start of the pandemic still has not been put into action by the White House many months later.

    Given Trump's refusal to concede the election and to unlock the funding and access to government departments and funding that Biden's transition team needs, fears are increasing that efforts to slow the pandemic will be put at risk.

    But the President is showing no obvious concern.
     

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