Biden Voter Messaging Survey Analysis

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  1. HB Surfer

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    Biden Voter Messaging Survey Analysis
    N=1,750 Respondents
    N=769 Oversample
    November 9 - 18, 2020
    Margin of Error +/- 2.34%
    Oversample Margin of Error +/- 3.53%

    Here are some of the questions and results:

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    The Survey reveals that many Biden voters did not know key information thanks to a black out by the MSM and Big Tech.

    You want to talk about voter manipulation and impacting an election, here you go. The MSM and Big Tech absolutely threw the election for Biden.

    It appears that if our "Free Press" and Big Tech did not protect Joe Biden that Donald Trump would have won the election easily.
     
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    Nothing matters to democrats like censorship, facts, or election integrity.
     
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    Nah, they certainly let you down for 4 years.
     
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    Not one of your posts are on topic. Like a Good Little Leftists you want no part of a "Free Press" or information from Big Tech that does not support your Leftist / Globalist narrative.

    Perhaps you can now post on the actual topic? Were you aware of those events that the Mainstream Media and Big Tech blocked from the populace? Did you vote while ignorant to them, or did you know and not care?
     
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    We already know that if the MSM showed even a smidge of fairness the past 4 years, this election wouod have been a landslide. Biden wouldn’t have had a chance. That’s how powerful propaganda is. When you repeat lies 24/7 for 4 years, people believe the picture that’s painted.

    Even now, after 4 years of the stock market not being “important”, with the recent gains, Democrats and the MSM are touting the gains as Biden influence. Completely incredible the mental gymnastics being shown and total idiocy that the MSM has become.

    They can NEVER be trusted again unless they tear into Biden as badly as they did Trump. Only then could I take them serious again. Maybe.
     
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    So not an article, unsorted, and no quote except an image. How is this a current event?
     
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    None of the above really.
    I would prefer our oil was still in the ground for a time when we might really need it or could save a ton by pumping it.
    I was aware of the increase in the GDP numbers but not impressed since the prior quarter that they are compared to really suck.
    I don't pay attention to conspiracy theories like the China story.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Weak minds unfortunately believe their bullshit and are ignorant to real events, because the MSM Propaganda keeps them that way. Gruber and Stalin were right about "Useful Idiots".
     
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    Most Republican voters didn't know that Trump is involved in a Rape lawsuit.
    Most Republican voters didn't know that Trump spent $110 million of taxpayer money to play golf.
    Most Republican voters didn't know that Trump's GDP numbers will be worse than Obama's

    Why? Because their right wing media bubble protected Trump. Works both ways, kiddo.
     
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    I'd like to see the source behind survey question 1.

    According to the EIA, which provides historical data on Crude Production, Exports, and Imports for every month since 1920: this assertion is false.

    The US is not even close to being "energy independent" with respect to crude oil.

    July 1944 was the last month that the US exported more crude oil than it imported.

    US Crude Oil Production
    https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist_xls/MCRFPUS1m.xls
    US Crude Oil Exports
    https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist_xls/MCREXUS1m.xls
    US Crude Oil Imports
    https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist_xls/MCRIMUS1m.xls

    Total US Crude Oil Consumption for about the past five years has been supported by at best 60% domestic production, but generally only about 50%.

    With the bottom having fallen out of the price of Crude Oil the US remains a net importer of it, in spite of record levels of exports of it.
     
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    That is because the voters were more concerned with the lack of response to the pandemic

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    Still pushing that BS HUH? Maybe if Biden was in charge he would have responded much sooner, because you know...banning travel from China was racist and partying in Chinatown was perfectly acceptable in February. If only Democrats still having rallies in March were in charge they would have responded sooner. Because you know, WHO gave us all fair warning and didn’t cover for China at all.

    Revisionist history and Monday morning QBing is so cool n stuff:) NOTHING would have changed. The only difference would have been the MSM treatment actually blaming China and not “Hillary”. That’s how sick Democrats have become. They feel better blaming our own president than the source of the problem.

    Hey. How did EU do? Better? No? Still rising cases over there too! Still people dying. Still higher death rates over there in many countries. But yeah, if only we acted sooner and could turn back time. If only WHO wasn’t working for China? If only China actually warned the world months earlier? Or did China do it on purpose because they can easily afford to lose millions of people without breaking a sweat? They don’t have to answer to anyone because they can murder as many as they want. They would welcome it. Weakening the world economy only helps them because they can absorb the death easily. Because they control so much manufacturing they can absorb the economic hit as well. It’s almost like it was purposeful you know. If only there was a lab working on viruses over there?? Like, if it started in a city with that lab and it “accidentally” got out? Like if they didn’t contain it and allowed people to travel all over the world from that City?
     
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    Apparently most Democrats don't know civil tort in this country is such that you can sue anyone for anything even if you have no case. And that feelings have more to do with the outcome in civil trials than do facts.

    Or that Carona virus lock downs which democrats have continued and worsened are the cause of the economic problems. Or for that matter that the Biden plan looks just like the Trump plan regarding said virus. None to surprising given that their really isn't much more you can do that's actually effective. The only thing interesting now is whether or not Nancy will be allowed to nationalize voter law so as to make cheating easier...
     
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    "At the time you cast your vote were you aware that the 4th quarter GDP rate 2019 was lower than that achieved under Obama and had been falling throughout 2019 even after the massive tax cuts given to corporations"

    "At the time you cast your vote were you aware that the Commerce Department reported the worst economic growth ever , an annualized rate of MINUS 32.9 Percent"?

    Is there a vote for the best joke thread of the week award?
     
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    So, basically, they asked people if they believed Trump's lies and misleading crap. And most didn't.

    No surprise.
     
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    The one most annoying thing that I find annoying here at PF is the way folks so seldom followup on admitting that they were wrong and posted spurious non-sense. Folks on both sides of the partisan divide have walked away without acknowledgement from the very few posts I've made that have definitively more or less fire-walled any other response than a concession.

    This non-sense in the OP claiming that Trump and his policies have been responsible for the first crude surplus in US history for example.

    Eh? How about that source, @HB Surfer?

    Concession, it's another way of saying know when to fold 'em.
     
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    Yes... and the award went to those that believed we had a fair, transparent, and verifiable election, or a "Free Press" that cared.

    What we learned from the survey is that the MSM and Big Tech put their finger on the scale to pick China Joe Biden... and those people that were not active enough to learn outside the MSM were what Gruber said they were.
     
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    What they do is deceptive. I think what you will find is they say we are energy independent, which recently became true.
    But they try to convince you it's oil - or they know no better.
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    Your charts are misleading. They only show what we are doing. Not what we are capable of doing. Much of our petroleum pumping is inactive For example, in 2019, it shows our production of oil to be 31% of our total energy needs. It shows consumption of oil to be 37% of our total energy needs. We have the capability to increase that production to 37% of our total energy needs, but have no need to do so. Much of our pumping is inactive and it is cheaper to buy the oil from other sources.
     
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    The fact remains @Grey Matter is correct. We still import more oil than we export.
     
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    A technicality of zero importance. We are truly energy independent anyway you want to look at it. With fracking of both oil and natural gas, we are exactly where we need to be.
     
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    Add them up. It's not even close.

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    They both add up to 100%. Actually because of rounding error, consumption only adds up to 99%.
     
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    upload_2020-11-26_19-48-21.jpeg

    Add up 2019.
     
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    2019 Production: 35 + 31+ 14+12+8 =100
    2019 Consumption: 37 + 32 +11 +11+ 8 =99

    However energy independence does not mean we consume only our own energy. It means we are not dependent on any other country. We will get along just fine without importing energy from any other country. In other words we are independent.
     

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