Major Study Finds Masks Don’t Reduce COVID-19 Infection Rates <<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    You don't strike me as someone who has knowledge of psychology. Are you worried some old guy is going to take you out?
    The death rate for people over 70 is 10% or so--high enough that it's impacting their consumer spending. A "normal" person at 75 with several co-morbidities may is probably wise to exercise caution.

    You must be besides yourself Does that you have to wear a mask in some public spaces.
     
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    Unfortunately there is nothing progressive about it, progressiveness is nothing more a repackaged version of a failed socialist movement, fancy new wrapper, a new angle of promotion, but anyone who falls for it will suffer the only fate that socialists can offer, loss of freedom, loss of property, starvation, violence and death, with most of the deaths being those who proffered and supported the movement.

    Yup and that is what happens when people become ignorant of history, or are fed and buy into a revised version of it.
     
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    Factually incorrect. Socialists want to collectivize production while progressives do not.
    State socialism, yes. We haven't suffered "loss of freedom, loss of property, starvation, violence and death" because we have a socialist public school system. Nor have we been ruined by farm cooperatives.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, they are always caught and the fact that it was Republicans doing it.... priceless
     
  5. (original)late

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    This is like a religion to them. Reality has less than nothing to do with it, they are escaping reality.
     
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    I'm not worried about Covid like you are. I go to work, go to bars, and walk around without a mask when "allowed" to in public places. :)

    Let me guess, you have your mask on at all times in public?
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Also, in our city, the mayor rejected the states forced mask mandate. So really we don't have to wear them :)
     
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    Probably wears one while sleeping and when taking a shower.

    You never know when those sneaky virus's will come a creeping like a black cat do.
     
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    My neighbor is the stereotypical Bernie supporter. Anti-Fox News sticker on the car too. He wears a mask in his own house. He made a point to tell all of us at the dog park. Where he also wears a mask, outside... lol
     
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    In the military they initially months ago had a rate of almost 5 percent positives in one month. 3/4ths of those cases ended up being false positives...roughly 80 percent false positives. I haven't checked what the rate is now for false positives but that was insane.
     
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    Jestsayin'
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  12. LangleyMan

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    You're making up stuff again. I never said respirators and masks are the same thing.
    Another personal attack. Seems to be your modus operandi.

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2769441

    https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/personal-protective-equipment-infection-control/n95-respirators-surgical-masks-and-face-masks

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-face-masks-what-you-need-to-know

    https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/worker-health-safety-us/covid19/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7331466/

    Get a 3M respirator from Amazon...

    https://www.amazon.com/3M-Facepiece-Respirator-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B001NDN29O/ref=sr_1_5?crid=36GDVT49Q4JW3&dchild=1&keywords=n100+respirator+mask&qid=1606583585&sprefix=n1,aps,262&sr=8-5
     
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    Why do you think medical personnel use N95 respirators?
     
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    Out here larger stores like Walmart and the grocery stores have signs advising people they must wear a mask to enter, however no one inside enforces the so called rules.

    Go over to the county courthouse and the sign is we request you wear a mask, not you must wear a mask, it's pretty much if you want to do it if not don't worry about it.

    Back in Broward County, which is run by Democrats, they had code enforcement running around nailing anyone not wearing mask with a $500 fine, you could be driving down the road, but with no mask on they would have you pulled over and get cited, be out in your front yard playing with your own children, no mask's, $500 fine for everyone over the age of 18.,

    It got so bad and such a corrupt money generating machine, with no way to appeal a fine, the Governor steeped in and issued an executive order banning counties lie Broward from enforcing any mask ordinances, that where not passed by the state legislature.

    A week later I was over there on business, walked out of a office in Cooper City, no mask on, as I went to get into my van a county code enforcement officer pulled up blocked me in and started to read me the riot act, she walked to the rear of my van to write down the tag number and noticed I am from another county, after which I was told I would receive a verbal warning, not a citation, I being in a particular cheery mood advised her to take her warning and shove it up her a**, she didn't appreciate that, but seemed to understand I was not going to be a very cooperative with someone who is not a law enforcement officer.

    She barked, "next time I see you without a mask your getting written up," my reply was no problem honey, I am looking forward to meeting you again someday.

    She drove off and I went back home to a county with sanity, not Democrat dictators running the place, employing tin badged a-holes to do their dirty work.

    And some of my friends still wonder why I fled Broward almost 5 years ago to an area still run by Democrats, but sane old school democrats, who care about who they serve, versus having control over everyone.
     
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    And more of your repeated lies to try to cover your incompetence. You seem to claim any who contradict you are making a "personal attack". You really need to learn what that phrase means. Also learn to question what you have been indoctrinated to parrot. Facts are not your friend or indeed facts to you.
     
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    I wonder how far they'll go spouting nonsense.
     
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    They still like to claim Dems were cheating in 1960.

    So there is nothing they won't believe, and repeat until they die. With the occasional exception like the nonexistent cellar in the pizza parlor. They really don't like their gullibility laid out so starkly.
     
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    And guess what, the mask Nazi's will refuse to understand the meaning of that image as it destroys their narrative, all they understand is comply or be censored and punished.

    Which they offer up in nearly every reply.

    It is very predictable, they have been doing it for a long time and is well known views contrary to theirs cannot be allowed to exist, facts, reputation and credibility be dammed, all that matters to them is promoting the current narrative of the progressive movement.
     
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    Is that guy breathing out sheetrock dust?
    How many times does it need to be stated that a mask is more to protect others against inhaling what the mask wearer expels
     
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    The CDC:

    "These guides recommend that health care workers entering the room of a SARS patient and medical transport workers transporting a patient with suspected SARS use the following:
    • Standard precautions (e.g., hand hygiene)
    • Contact precautions (e.g., use of gown and gloves for contact with the patient or their environment)
    • Eye protection for all patient contact
    • A respirator that is at least as protective as an N-95 respirator approved by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH)"
    https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/factsheets/respsars.html
    So, why do you think the CDC recommends an N95 or better respirator when "entering the room of a SARS patient and medical transport workers transporting a patient with suspected SARS?"
     
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    Most of this crap comes from people that are afraid to enter a grocery store. Let them waste their life sitting in the basement pounding a keyboard. I for one am going through life trying to keep it as normal as possible. I will mask if it is mandated. In no way will I wear one while outdoors or driving my own car. I see these fruitcakes and just point and laugh.
     
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    Some stores require people entering their premises wear masks. Lemme guess--you don't go into stores where you have to put one on.
     
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    The question is, how long will you?
     
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    Post a thread sourced with a crap plie of a scientific study and...

    Reputation is important. Yours, nor so much.
     
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    More than likely, considering how much is bypassing the mask when he inhales..

    Keep in mind when a person wearing a mask inhales their breath, the vacuum it creates within the mask pulls the mask closer to their face, sealing it somewhat better to their face then when they exhale, when they do it will by the positive pressure they create within the mask push it away from their face, causing it to leak out a lot of the contaminants that where leaked into the mask when they inhaled.

    Now if those drywall dist particles, that are visible, where replaced with contaminated droplets, which cannot be seen, they would be pushed out of the mask in the same manner, that would in turn, say in a mall or shopping center, make the person wearing the mask into a walking virus spreading machine, spreading way more contaminates then if that person was not wearing a mask and those droplets where trapped and contained within that person's lungs.

    Masks are dangerous, they provide a false sense of security, which causes people to let down their guard and fail to keep a safe distance from others, worse yet, many people, way too many people, fail to properly dispose of a mask after 8 hours, the recommended expiration time for commercially produced masks, instead, they take them home, often times touching a contaminated mask without gloving up, to store it or worse yet wash them, greatly reducing the effectiveness of the mask each time it is washed.

    A worn out mask stops nothing other a chunk of phlegm coughed up or blown out of the nose.

    Now the insidious part is, that glob of moisture, if contaminated, will slowly evaporate and as it does each time the person wearing the mask exhales that will push out contaminated particles, again turning them into a virus spreading machine.

    For everyone, it would be much better to dump that contaminated material into a disposable napkin, not a mask and drop it into a waste container, it would be nice if it was a hazmat container, but that's not happening, so just dump in into a waste container, preferably a covered waste container, so others are not digging through it looking for something of value.
     
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