Biden to impose $200 Gun Tax

It was your idea. Exempt trappers from heavy taxation on firearms using tax filings for determination of who qualifies. Don’t back out on me now. It was all your idea.

Why should a kid trapper be played a favorite by the Federal government over a dishwasher? Why should wealthy people be the only ones able to afford firearms if there aren’t exemptions for hunters or trappers?

That’s the problem with your argument. It’s emotionally based and fails tests of logic or equality under the law.

 

What is needed is a $200 tax on bullets, $200 per bullet.

Then only the rich can kill a lot of people.

 

Will criminals be required to pay this tax on their guns

 

They are traceable, so the fee is waved for convenience.

 

Criminals dont get a tax return anyway, so im sure they wont miss the $200.

 

Police get paid from the state. Its part of their uniform fee.

 

I said he wouldn't ban it.
He cant. And I asked you how is this worse then Trumps ban. At least its still legal, unlike your guys war on drugs, which has caused 10 times more trouble.

And they will prolly just hold your tax return. Or non evasively provide a $200 tax credit to all Americans who dont own an assault rifle under penalty of perjury. Give it to everyone who files and make the owners pay it back.

 

What? A firearm used for trapping is traceable but one used in 3 gun competition or for home defense isn’t? More emotion without logic or reason.

 

More elitism. This is actually the endgame.

 

Ok, then its not waived, I guess you got a point. You sorta killed your own argument.
I was trying to help you out so they could get the fee waved.

Whats prolly gonna happen is during tax time, people are going to be asked if they own an assault rifle for a tax credit. Just dont lie. Otherwise you will be committing perjury.

 

And thus, your concession:
You cannot demonstrate to the class how a rifle with a bayonet lug is, functionally, so much more dangerous to the public than a rifle w/o one that the manufacture and sale of the former needs to be banned, while the manufacture and sale of the latter is acceptable.
Thank you.

 

This violates the constitution in exactly the same way as a similar tax laid upon abortions.

 

Ok. So?

 

Did you notice how you avoided his question, in its entirety?

 

First of all neither is being banned, so there goes that.
If you means taxed, then yes he has demonstrated that point rather fairly. You need to demonstrate why your weapon of choice should be excluded from the tax.

 

The people who support Biden's plan to confiscate rifles, shotguns and handguns don't give a hoot in hell what criminals do.

 

I think you are thoroughly confused. The conversation you stepped into was about using tax filings with the IRS to determine who would get exemptions for outrageous tax on all firearm related items. It was not about the OP tax stamp requirements filing with the BATFE.

You are helping make my point that people who are completely ignorant on the entire subject should not be involved in policy making.

And I don’t care what kind of emotion based wild ideas y’all come up with. If they aren’t applied equally amongst societal classes they are garbage and unconstitutional on that level alone. That was my point, not to “get exemptions” for anyone.

 

Uh-huh.
At the end of the day do you want the tax or not?
If not, you better come up with a better argument, cause you're losing.
People ignorant with the subject ARE involved with policy making and you're gonna get your guns taxed if you cant come up with an excuse for a waiver.

 

Which tax?

Your anti gun buddy is the one who proposed a waiver. Not me. And it had nothing to do with the OP NFA item designation proposal. I’m not an elitist. I don’t want to be favored because I can afford NFA items. I believe a single mother in Detroit barely paying the bills deserves the same rights as I have. I will never throw her under the bus to preserve my rights alone. That’s the type of behavior obviously favored by progressives. It sickens me. You recommending such behavior to me sickens me. What’s more, I believe now such behavior would sicken the majority of SCOTUS.

Not only am I not losing the argument, so far nobody has been able to intellectually address my argument. I guess you can’t either...

The admission by you the Biden administration is ignorant was a nice touch though. On that we agree.

 

Actually thats a pretty elitist attitude right there.
Labeling others elitist because they disagree with you? Democrats are usually in the lower, or middle income range, so what you type makes little sense.

 

They will just ask on your tax return form if you want a $200 tax credit applied to what you owe perhaps.
Yea. Default give it to everyone, then let people not qualify. I see little harm there.

 

If you put someone in office with that plan and people vote on it, I guess it would be the way it is.
Didn't your side try and make it so only land owners could vote? So it wouldn't be the first time you guys tried some crap like that.

 

I’ve not called anyone elitist for having a differing opinion. I’ve called those who wish to treat others less fortunate differently (worse) than well off individuals elitist. Wanting every class treated equally, which is my belief, is the exact opposite of elitism.

How does income of level Democratic leaning folks relate in any way to anything I’ve said?